Sadly, To Not Much Surprise, Fedora 24 Alpha Has Been Delayed

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Sadly, To Not Much Surprise, Fedora 24 Alpha Has Been Delayed

Fedora 24 is continuing in Fedora Linux's trend of being delayed multiple times during the release cycle...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-24-Alpha-Delay

[Anvil]

better to release it when its completely stable so i dont care about the delay

[Delgarde]

A Fedora release delayed? Surely not...

[tessio]

A list of the blocking bugs would be nice..

[AdamW]

The release wasn't really 'delayed' two times before, we just changed the schedule. Early in the cycle the schedule is always a draft and subject to change. This is the first point where it's really a 'delay' from a firm schedule.

There's actually a bunch of pretty big change happening this cycle, though it's happening quite quietly; the compose process is completely different for F24 from previous releases, it's the biggest change to the release engineering tools and process since the Core/Extras merge way back when. I was actually expecting this to go a lot *worse*, privately I was guessing we'd still be stuck trying to get composes working at this point, but in fact we have a nearly-releasable candidate, so it's pretty good.

tessio you can always find the blocker list at http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current . There's one definite blocker in the current candidate (Cockpit isn't enabled out of the box on Server installs), and one we haven't decided yet whether it's a blocker or not for sure (it seems that sometimes you can't unlock a KDE session after it locks due to idle timeout).

[cl333r]

Sadly, we still have 10-20 articles ahead of us about this or that Fedora 24 milestone being or not being met. And another 10 articles of recap on F24.

[peppercats]

What niche does fedora fill in 2016? It's not a bleeding edge distro anymore when you compare it to things like Arch linux. It's not as stable as Debian, and not as user-friendly as Ubuntu.

[magika]

What niche does fedora fill in 2016? It's not a bleeding edge distro anymore when you compare it to things like Arch linux. It's not as stable as Debian, and not as user-friendly as Ubuntu.

Also not as fast as Arch (rpm-dnf-slow vs pacman) and not as stable either: I've never had so many things broken due upgrade in Arch as when I did Fedora upgrade, and more, upgrading script broke itself :P

[spike411]

So where is this myth that Ubuntu is nowadays still significantly the most user-friendly distro coming from? Apart from some notable multimedia packages missing from the official Fedora repositories due to their stricter licensing policy... (which can be overcome with RPMFusion quite easily) what's the difference? For me, Fedora just works (as well as or better than Ubuntu).

[varikonniemi]

Perhaps they should not have dropped wayland as default as there still is plenty of time to make it work.