Ubuntu 14.04 vs. Debian 7.3 vs. Debian Jessie Preview

[vinipl87]

I wish there was a middle ground where we could get long term stability with new kernel and drivers and the option of selective more recent packages. I tried the suggested workarounds (run testing, mix release repos) and could never get a satisfactory solution.

Give SolydK distro a try

[NomadDemon]

Yeap, being stable, not spying on its users, using common sense to maintain the system, sending bugs/fixes upstream and not competing with other distros on that topic are some of the problems of debian.

not exactly

ffado driver, old version, my studio card not working
alsa old version, my delta 1010 didnt worked on alsa, need to set up jack [not work out of box]
couldnot install some packages i need [designed for ubuntu]

init scripts of some programs out of box, sometimes problem with packages like propetriary version of firebird db server [yes i have to use cripled version, because soft require this version] works good only on ubuntu server, not work good in debian and normal ubuntu

want more? so stop laughing and troll.

i know all of this problems could be solved, but it need my time, need to read 1000 pages of manuals of alsa, how to install/recompile it without fucking up whole audio system

yes. iam not typical user with intel HD audio so i have problems sometimes.

init scripts are not that pain in ass, but still, would be good if they will use same initscript managers

[Yorgos]

debian always had some problems

Yeap, being stable, not spying on its users, using common sense to maintain the system, sending bugs/fixes upstream and not competing with other distros on that topic are some of the problems of debian.

[NomadDemon]

Don't expect any huge differences - the majority of the packages are the same in both - Ubuntu freezes Debian Sid at some point and imports all the packages.

This article actually hints at one of the issues with running Debian Stable, that it tends not to perform optimally (or, sometimes, at all) on newer hardware. The next stable release after Wheezy will be sometime in 2015.. I wish there was a middle ground where we could get long term stability with new kernel and drivers and the option of selective more recent packages. I tried the suggested workarounds (run testing, mix release repos) and could never get a satisfactory solution.

its more about upstart vs systemd / mir vs wayland etc

i know packages are same

but iam still not sure, iam on ubuntu since 6 years, debian always had some problems

[chrisb]

I've been running Jessie since Day 1 (well maybe Day 4 or 5 but not more), and I never had a hard crash or something like that... And I'm running a modern computer, with touchscreen, bells and whistles...

Jessie isn't stable yet so what you're running is Debian testing, last time I tried it I ended up with dependency problems and eventually wiped it, but that was some time ago and I will try it again at some point. It was actually stable (Wheezy) that I was complaining about with new hardware. Something like Ubuntu's "LTS Enablement" repo would be useful for Debian.

[malkavian]

Debian testing? Yeah!

Michael, thank you for including Debian testing in your test, I use it since about 2000 year (just simply updating, never reinstalling), except for one year that I tried Kubuntu and afterwards go back to my beloved Debian.

Debian stable have bad perfomance obviously. His strenght is the stability, it's a version for servers. For desktops Testing is the recommended. I use testing with, some package from unstable that I want more updated.

[doom_Oo7]

Don't expect any huge differences - the majority of the packages are the same in both - Ubuntu freezes Debian Sid at some point and imports all the packages.

This article actually hints at one of the issues with running Debian Stable, that it tends not to perform optimally (or, sometimes, at all) on newer hardware. The next stable release after Wheezy will be sometime in 2015.. I wish there was a middle ground where we could get long term stability with new kernel and drivers and the option of selective more recent packages. I tried the suggested workarounds (run testing, mix release repos) and could never get a satisfactory solution.

I've been running Jessie since Day 1 (well maybe Day 4 or 5 but not more), and I never had a hard crash or something like that... And I'm running a modern computer, with touchscreen, bells and whistles...

[chrisb]

if it will be going like that.. i think i will drop ubuntu for debian

Don't expect any huge differences - the majority of the packages are the same in both - Ubuntu freezes Debian Sid at some point and imports all the packages.

This article actually hints at one of the issues with running Debian Stable, that it tends not to perform optimally (or, sometimes, at all) on newer hardware. The next stable release after Wheezy will be sometime in 2015.. I wish there was a middle ground where we could get long term stability with new kernel and drivers and the option of selective more recent packages. I tried the suggested workarounds (run testing, mix release repos) and could never get a satisfactory solution.

[NomadDemon]

if it will be going like that.. i think i will drop ubuntu for debian

[Asariati]

Small thing, image at the top of the article isn't working for me

Same here.