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Originally posted by SolidSteel144 View PostTurns out for it to appear in GDM you have to update first.
For some reason the Wayland version fails to start for me.
The cause of the crash: mutter-wayland tries to load XWayland but Xorg is not built with xwayland support, so it decides to bail out. I'm not sure why it behaves like this --- after all weston has a flag for xwayland and runs just fine even if you turn it off.
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Originally posted by finalzone View PostOn login screen after pressing the username, select the gear beside the blue enter button and choose "Gnome in Wayland".
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Originally posted by Awesomeness View PostProbably has more to do with KWin's ability to run without compositing (not so many FOSS drivers for GPUs in ARM systems).
In practice, both KDE and Xfce are likely to be quite well tested and working on ARM systems, and you might prefer Xfce as being a bit lighter and faster.
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Originally posted by AdamW View PostUnfortunately doesn't work right now. You can try it from a console, the devs warn it's still in somewhat rough shape right now. Should be smoothed out for Beta and Final somewhat, but it is still a tech preview for F20, not really ready for day-to-day use.
From the stack backtrace I can see that mutter is trying to load xwayland but xwayland is not built on fedore 20. So it aborts.
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Originally posted by AdamW View PostYes. The logic was this: GNOME and KDE are already release-blocking desktops. We can't really call GNOME release-blocking for ARM, due to the driver situation. Xfce is probably actually more widely used on ARM than KDE, in all likelihood, but since KDE already has release-blocking status for Fedora and so we have reasonable confidence that we have the people and processes in place to get issues in it fixed quickly if necessary, we decided to make KDE the sole release-blocking desktop for ARM rather than giving Xfce that status as well/instead.
In practice, both KDE and Xfce are likely to be quite well tested and working on ARM systems, and you might prefer Xfce as being a bit lighter and faster.
Considering the fact that ARM hardware is usually either used for either small servers (i.e. no UI at all) or mobile computers like tablets (where Plasma Active shines), I strongly doubt that Xfce is widely used there.
Well, thanks to Gnome Project?s shortsightedness (tying the DE to a GL-exclusive composited WM), Red Hat accidentally did the right thing. :-)
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Originally posted by Awesomeness View PostYeah, sorry. Fedora is an independent community whose leaders just by shear coincidence are mostly employed by Red Hat, just like Gnome.
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Originally posted by Awesomeness View PostAs if I'd ever use a desktop with the development speed of a glacier (only one release per year and no bugfix releases in between)?
Considering the fact that ARM hardware is usually either used for either small servers (i.e. no UI at all) or mobile computers like tablets (where Plasma Active shines), I strongly doubt that Xfce is widely used there.
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