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Originally posted by BO$$ View PostHow exactly is Canonical downplaying the importance of linux community? They never say anything about it as a marketing strategy just like google. The never say that Android is based on linux since linux frightens people since everybody knows linux as that shitty operating system for geniuses that can't play an mp3.
As to not playing an mp3, the people at fault here are the mp3 patent holders, not Linux. You can only blame Linux for this if things were always on a proper even playing ground, which they certainly are not.Last edited by Hamish Wilson; 14 March 2013, 02:40 PM.
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Originally posted by BO$$ View PostThey don't talk about it to end users because it's bad for people to know that it's powered by linux if you want to sell them linux. Why don't you say that android downplays linux? Oh right, google is not canonical and canonical is evil.
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Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View PostBut the thing is that Android is not Linux as far as things go (they do acknowledge that the kernel is based on Linux, which is about all you can expect from them, even if I am not a big Andorid fan). Ubuntu was based almost entirely on community Linux components, so it was arrogant of them to dismiss them like they have.
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Originally posted by jayrulez View PostAndroid is as much Linux as Ubuntu is Linux. Linux is just the Kernel running in each of those OSs. Do you perhaps mean GNU and other FOSS components?
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Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View PostWhile I can agree to your semantic distinction when it comes to GNU and the other FOSS components, Android does not actually use the Linux kernel or the commonly accepted userland that usually surrounds it.
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Originally posted by locovaca View PostUh, what kernel does Android use then? And what is the "commonly accepted userland"?
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Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View PostAndroid uses it's own kernel which is based on Linux but is now quite divergent of it. And by commonly accepted user-land, I mean the rest of what makes up Linux distros, including the display server, desktops, tool-kits, bash shell, etc. Most are not used on Android.
Plenty of embedded devices ship with a minimal, customized kernel and minimal userland binaries. OpenWrt barely has a userland, is compiled with uClibc, and is still considered "Linux".
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Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View PostAndroid uses it's own kernel which is based on Linux but is now quite divergent of it. And by commonly accepted user-land, I mean the rest of what makes up Linux distros, including the display server, desktops, tool-kits, bash shell, etc. Most are not used on Android.
I don't know what kind of authority you purport to be on this matter but Android uses the Linux kernel, albeit modified, but Linux nonetheless.
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Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View PostAndroid uses it's own kernel which is based on Linux but is now quite divergent of it. And by commonly accepted user-land, I mean the rest of what makes up Linux distros, including the display server, desktops, tool-kits, bash shell, etc. Most are not used on Android.
About the userland you're totally correct of course.
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