Originally posted by blackiwid
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I just wanted to say that if rpm (as programm sucks) thats also a problem of yum... that was my point, and if dpkg would suck, then apt would also have problems.
so to say yum is not rpm (programm) and therefor when I say rpm sucks does not matter because yum != rpm is not true...
for that I could strangle you like homer does bart ^^. You can have a different opinion than mine, no problem with that, but to say without any proof or any anything to say you dont understand what you are talking about (and therefore you are not allowed to have a opinion sucks, and is just a lie).
The commend between my last and yours did agree to my point (that rpm had (big) issues) that was my point, not more not less. But also its true that rpm allowes file-dependencies, I thinkt thats very dangerous and some murrons will use that, that would cause problems.
So maybe you have the oposite opinion than I do, thats your right, but dont say to me that I dont know what I am talking about just because you dont get my point.
(sorry for that aggressiv tone, but if you have 10-15 years of experince with linux use it for nearly all, I have even made own deb packages, and did write some small gentoo install-scripts) used (shurly not the last few years but before that) a bit suse, more mandrake and stuff, so I have a (small) clue what I am talking about and I think I know enough to at least have a own opinion to that topic)
BACK TO FEDORA
back to fedora testet it, not so bad, packaging wasnt the problem, what was problem was that I could not use my ubuntu home, so I needed to use a selinux command (I did not select it in the installer but replaced it later manually) thats a bit confusing surely a better error could come that just not allowed to change directory to my home dir when I try to login...
But ok, solved... now I have a bigger problem I think its only a problem of pulseaudio or the usb-driver of my usb-soundcard, under linux that works without problems, in fedora I tried it at the moment only with minitube, will try it with other sourced but at the beginning it works that some dmest usb-errors pop up and it stops working and nearly freezes my desktop ^^ So you will not fix it here, just wanted to give a bit a feedback to my experince ^^ its a U-Control UCA202 usb-soundcard btw....
else I had no issues with yum, oh yes chromium is very old version that also crashes very often which I had from a "stable" repo what I installed like descriped here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Chromium (so the semi-official package) ^^ thats a bit sad.
else than that I had no problem ohh ok the installed said that It could not install grub and then the old ubuntu grub was still there, so I had to mount the lvm partition under ubuntu and then update-grub found it and added it. (without the nice grafical boot, instead oldschool text-scroll-boot ^^ but it boots so good enough ^^)
I the case somebody is interested in my experience ^^
And btw, when the stable chromium package is buggy and very old (crashed in 10 minutes like 5 times) as the ubuntu (stable) chromium package is stable there should maybe be a current unstable package but the last unstable package is for fedora 15 and is a year old... so at least dont link to that package in the wiki I tried to install that and removed the package only to find out that there was no newer package anyway and I have to reinstall the old "stable" one...
so to say yum is not rpm (programm) and therefor when I say rpm sucks does not matter because yum != rpm is not true...
for that I could strangle you like homer does bart ^^. You can have a different opinion than mine, no problem with that, but to say without any proof or any anything to say you dont understand what you are talking about (and therefore you are not allowed to have a opinion sucks, and is just a lie).
The commend between my last and yours did agree to my point (that rpm had (big) issues) that was my point, not more not less. But also its true that rpm allowes file-dependencies, I thinkt thats very dangerous and some murrons will use that, that would cause problems.
So maybe you have the oposite opinion than I do, thats your right, but dont say to me that I dont know what I am talking about just because you dont get my point.
(sorry for that aggressiv tone, but if you have 10-15 years of experince with linux use it for nearly all, I have even made own deb packages, and did write some small gentoo install-scripts) used (shurly not the last few years but before that) a bit suse, more mandrake and stuff, so I have a (small) clue what I am talking about and I think I know enough to at least have a own opinion to that topic)
BACK TO FEDORA
back to fedora testet it, not so bad, packaging wasnt the problem, what was problem was that I could not use my ubuntu home, so I needed to use a selinux command (I did not select it in the installer but replaced it later manually) thats a bit confusing surely a better error could come that just not allowed to change directory to my home dir when I try to login...
But ok, solved... now I have a bigger problem I think its only a problem of pulseaudio or the usb-driver of my usb-soundcard, under linux that works without problems, in fedora I tried it at the moment only with minitube, will try it with other sourced but at the beginning it works that some dmest usb-errors pop up and it stops working and nearly freezes my desktop ^^ So you will not fix it here, just wanted to give a bit a feedback to my experince ^^ its a U-Control UCA202 usb-soundcard btw....
else I had no issues with yum, oh yes chromium is very old version that also crashes very often which I had from a "stable" repo what I installed like descriped here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Chromium (so the semi-official package) ^^ thats a bit sad.
else than that I had no problem ohh ok the installed said that It could not install grub and then the old ubuntu grub was still there, so I had to mount the lvm partition under ubuntu and then update-grub found it and added it. (without the nice grafical boot, instead oldschool text-scroll-boot ^^ but it boots so good enough ^^)
I the case somebody is interested in my experience ^^
And btw, when the stable chromium package is buggy and very old (crashed in 10 minutes like 5 times) as the ubuntu (stable) chromium package is stable there should maybe be a current unstable package but the last unstable package is for fedora 15 and is a year old... so at least dont link to that package in the wiki I tried to install that and removed the package only to find out that there was no newer package anyway and I have to reinstall the old "stable" one...
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