Originally posted by mugginz
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If they write new parts which provide what they consider better functionality for the desktop but upstream doesn't want those changes and ideas, and instead want to plot a different course then surely that leaves Canonical in one of about two places.
1) Take on-board upstreams perspective on what the Linux desktop should look like, behave and function like and simply throw away any of their research and vision that points the way forward to a better desktop experience and be happy with that,
or
2) They can accept that upstream is entitled to their view of what the desktop should be and at the same time trust in their own view of a better, more functional and smoother working desktop and deploy that while at the same time still leaving the code there for upstream, or for that matter, anyone else to adopt if they so wish.
If upstream doesn't like Canonical's vision for the Gnome desktop should Canonical stop "wasting" resources on that and only allow themselves to move in Gnomes particular sanctioned blueprint.
Don't things move forward when different ideas can be deployed to see which ones people prefer?
1) Take on-board upstreams perspective on what the Linux desktop should look like, behave and function like and simply throw away any of their research and vision that points the way forward to a better desktop experience and be happy with that,
or
2) They can accept that upstream is entitled to their view of what the desktop should be and at the same time trust in their own view of a better, more functional and smoother working desktop and deploy that while at the same time still leaving the code there for upstream, or for that matter, anyone else to adopt if they so wish.
If upstream doesn't like Canonical's vision for the Gnome desktop should Canonical stop "wasting" resources on that and only allow themselves to move in Gnomes particular sanctioned blueprint.
Don't things move forward when different ideas can be deployed to see which ones people prefer?
When you look at Ubuntu packages, they are quite usual patched. Do you think upstream ever seen these patches? No. Because Ubuntu does not even recognize it is good idea to send those patches. They usually say, "look, this code is GPL, you can take it, so what is the problem?". Problem is, any upstream developer does not search patches across the repositories of zillions of existing distributions. If they does not cooperate with upstream actively, it is the same as not developing any code at all.
It is easy to find upstream developers today, who accidentally find out, that their software was patched in Ubuntu, but no one let them know about it, no one sent this patch to them.... This is the exactly the point, where Ubuntu sucks the most.
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