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Originally posted by V1tol View PostUbuntu: ships LTS with GNOME full of buggy features
Also Ubuntu: KDE 6? Not on my watch.
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I wonder if the Qt Company's change in position on Qt LTS releases has had a role to play in KDE LTS being depreciated? I don't want to go down that foil-lined rabbit hole, but it's an interesting thought.
I say all that because Plasma 6 might as well be a beta release right now. I'm using Plasma 6 Wayland and it's great, I love it, but I can see why a distribution wouldn't want to consider it just yet (or anything that is primarily Wayland, really). Not everyone and everything is ready for the full X/Wayland transition and LTS brings with it the assumption that things will be working and ready. That basically means "not Wayland" when it comes to LTS.
It really doesn't help that Plasma 6 drew a line in the sand with X and Wayland and, because of that, the X side of the line doesn't have feature parity with the Wayland side. A distribution won't want to offer both sessions if switching sessions can cause odd issues for users to wonder what's going on. For an example practically any user can come across, it requires logging in and out 2 times to switch between X and Wayland on Plasma 5 to account for all the scaling settings that aren't shared between X and Wayland. Having to log in and out twice because the X and Wayland sessions don't share the same settings isn't LTS friendly and good reason to depreciate one session or the other.
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Originally posted by bple2137 View Post
Ubuntu has too old Qt for Plasma 6 to work correctly. If they patch it somehow and force it to run on older version, the experience will be buggy, like with 5.27 on Ubuntu 22.04 (that was notorious for crashing lock screen, with no way to fix)
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Originally posted by skeevy420 View PostIMHO, KDE dropped the ball with the new Plasma release model; how between Plasma 5 and 6 they depreciated KDE LTS releases since no distributions ever seemed to use them. What they should have done was make the last Plasma 5 release become KDE LTS and have it receive nothing bug bug and security fixes going forward.
Originally posted by skeevy420 View PostIt should also have been the only version of KDE that supports X11 so 6 could be Wayland only.Last edited by user1; 29 April 2024, 10:02 AM.
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So by your logic, one single feature that is even hidden from the GUI in Gnome 46 for obvious reason = Gnome full of buggy features?
I've recently tried Gnome 46 and I can tell you that it's a solid release. Even the initial 46.0 release. And no, Plasma 6.0 is still too buggy for an Ubuntu LTS release. Haven't you seen the amount of new bugs with this release? I suggest you watch Brodie Robertson's stream where he tests Plasma 6 and see the random freezes he experiences when doing simple stuff.
Besides, KDE's VRR implementation still has issues too.
I don't care about what is considered experimental and what not. When KDE dropped VRR support like more than a year ago, it worked for me from day 1 just great. Ubuntu devs are just puppies that are happy to eat that crap immediately as it is dropped upstream.
Originally posted by user1 View PostAnd if you desperately want Plasma 6 on 24.04, some Kubuntu dev has recently said it will eventually ship with Kubuntu backports PPA. By that time, it will probably be some newer future version of Plasma 6 with even more fixed bugs.
Originally posted by Malsabku View PostVRR is experimental (for every Gnome-based distro) and is not part of Ubuntu's advertised GNOME feature set. So there is no bug here.
KDE 6 is not LTS-ready and it's even not in Debian, so it cannot be in Ubuntu.
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