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    Phoronix: RHEL's Source Code Access Change Is Causing Issues For CentOS SIGs

    It looks like the Red Hat change restricting access to RHEL sources that was announced last year is having the unintended consequence of causing some headaches for CentOS special interest group (SIG) projects...

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  • #2
    Goodbye RedHat, an IBM subsidiary...

    This is the start of the end of Red Hat. Thanks, IBM

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    • #3
      Due to restricting access to the RHEL kernel sources among other Red Hat Enterprise Linux source packages, it's causing issues for the CentOS SIG trying to improve the kernel modules experience for RHEL (and CentOS Stream) users...
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      Why don't they grab it from the industry standard OpenELA repo like the other enterprise oriented distros?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by kpedersen View Post

        Why don't they grab it from the industry standard OpenELA repo like the other enterprise oriented distros?
        I'd imagine they don't have much choice given Red Hat acquired them when they forced them to shift to CentOS Stream https://www.redhat.com/en/about/pres...os-join-forces

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        • #5
          It looks like the Red Hat change restricting access to RHEL sources that was announced last year is having the unintended consequence of causing some headaches[...]
          Was it unintended? This is what Red Hat wanted, afaict.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by timofonic View Post
            Goodbye RedHat, an IBM subsidiary...

            This is the start of the end of Red Hat. Thanks, IBM
            Nah, RedHat is still doing fine in the eyes of their enterprise customers. Better than fine, ever since they were bought by IBM. RedHat isn't going to lose marketshare anytime soon.

            As for Linux users and distro owner's opinion of them, RedHat has their hand in too many things related to Linux. They used and abused their power as one of the biggest Linux-focused companies to push basically every distro into using and relying on software they own and maintain. You can't get away from RedHat software if you wanted to on a modern PC. And if you think that wasn't intentional, you're kidding yourself.

            RedHat is going to stick around and control how your Linux desktop works for a long, long time.

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            • #7
              maybe they'll see that their new policy is hindering their own development and reconsider it.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post

                Nah, RedHat is still doing fine in the eyes of their enterprise customers. Better than fine, ever since they were bought by IBM. RedHat isn't going to lose marketshare anytime soon.

                As for Linux users and distro owner's opinion of them, RedHat has their hand in too many things related to Linux. They used and abused their power as one of the biggest Linux-focused companies to push basically every distro into using and relying on software they own and maintain. You can't get away from RedHat software if you wanted to on a modern PC. And if you think that wasn't intentional, you're kidding yourself.

                RedHat is going to stick around and control how your Linux desktop works for a long, long time.
                Yep. Like how they use Wayland to try to gatekeep the Linux desktop. It's not a surprise that they made Wayland for security reasons and now suddenly Wayland isn't secure enough so people now have to use Wayland and Portals. How long until WayPorts aren't good enough?

                GNOME, too. Look at all of Ubuntu's work that's constantly in a WIP state. I give Ubuntu credit since System67, Budgie, etc seemed to have given up on working with GNOME/RHEL.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

                  Yep. Like how they use Wayland to try to gatekeep the Linux desktop. It's not a surprise that they made Wayland for security reasons and now suddenly Wayland isn't secure enough so people now have to use Wayland and Portals. How long until WayPorts aren't good enough?.
                  This is a silly point. Wayland just avoids the Xorg problem of having every window available to every application to snoop on but it doesn't do anything for applications that need to mediate privileged access. A "portal" is just a Dbus interface. I don't see a problem with doing it that way since hundreds of desktop applications already use it.

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                  • #10
                    Good for Red Hat!!!

                    They have invested a ton of money into building their brand, software and services and I see no reason to let anyone leech off their hard work.

                    From the point of view of everyone else, i don't see any reason to want to use RH sources other than to ride RH's coattails and benefit from RH's good name.

                    Use Fedora, Gentoo, Void, LFS, Debian, Slackware or FBSD and build your brand from there.

                    I think these guys are doing the right thing switching to Fedora, though i would much rather see them stand on their own feet and use LFS.

                    For the record, anytime you hear "special interest group" remember that it's just that, they do not have anyone's interests in mind other than their own, how can they benefit at someone else's expense.

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