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  • #11
    Does it work with encrypted boot as opensuse sets it up?

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    • #12
      Originally posted by drake23 View Post
      Does it work with encrypted boot as opensuse sets it up?
      It's only a boot manager... The only things that might not be working (yet) are ones explicitly dependant on grub's scripts (they are few and with the bootloader specs, that grub supports too, adding sdboot support actually means supporting grub too, no duplicated work). Decryption happens in initramfs so it will work without doing anything special.
      Last edited by User42; 29 September 2023, 11:07 AM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by drake23 View Post
        Does it work with encrypted boot as opensuse sets it up?
        Yes it works with FDE.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Kjell View Post
          That's the final straw for me!
          I'm switching to Artix dinit
          So all year long on Phoronix I read nothing but people complaining about GRUB and raving about how fantastic systemd-boot is, and now that a distro adds support, it's not good? Please help me understand.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

            So all year long on Phoronix I read nothing but people complaining about GRUB and raving about how fantastic systemd-boot is, and now that a distro adds support, it's not good? Please help me understand.
            I was surprise as well. Considering how brittle Grub can be at times, I would love to see a more robust alternative being more widely adopted.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

              So all year long on Phoronix I read nothing but people complaining about GRUB and raving about how fantastic systemd-boot is, and now that a distro adds support, it's not good? Please help me understand.
              Clearly seemed to be a joke to me, though not a particularly funny one.

              My feelings about systemd are mostly positive, but Linux communities do entirely too much circlejerking about people who are reluctant to jump onto this year's new hotness, IMO.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

                So all year long on Phoronix I read nothing but people complaining about GRUB and raving about how fantastic systemd-boot is, and now that a distro adds support, it's not good? Please help me understand.


                Does that help?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

                  So all year long on Phoronix I read nothing but people complaining about GRUB and raving about how fantastic systemd-boot is, and now that a distro adds support, it's not good? Please help me understand.
                  Systemd-boot is pretty good, but some people just complain whenever they read the word "systemd".

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

                    So all year long on Phoronix I read nothing but people complaining about GRUB
                    Certainly different people... And you are citing a person who can't distinguish adding and removing a feature. I am not sure it is that common to find people that confused.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by User42 View Post

                      It's only a boot manager... The only things that might not be working (yet) are ones explicitly dependant on grub's scripts (they are few and with the bootloader specs, that grub supports too, adding sdboot support actually means supporting grub too, no duplicated work). Decryption happens in initramfs so it will work without doing anything special.
                      No, the open suse setup is actually with encrypted /boot, so grub decrypts /boot BEFORE initramfs gets loaded. Hence my question if systemd boot works with that kind of setup.

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