openSUSE Slowroll Released As A Slower Alternative To openSUSE Tumbleweed

[freerunner]

As long as it "slowrolls" the core and keeps some of the more edge applications (Firefox, Chromium, Edge, PowerShell, ansible, terraform, etc...) recent I'm fine with that.

For a desktop system, I’d rather go with a recent kernel and mesa instead. IMHO the primary reason, why Leap has been unpopular.
Look at how widely spread Ubuntu LTS has become amongst gamers. With a good kernel and kisak’s mesa repo, these platforms perform extremely well.

[woddy]

I've been using Tumbleweed for 5 years, but I've also used Leap for a few years... my opinion is that today it doesn't make much sense to use a fix release distribution for desktop use, however there may be cases where it is the best solution.
The "new" update model of this new distribution is certainly a good compromise, because Leap and the various fix release distributions are not more "stable" than Tumbleweed, it is just more predictable.

[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

They might as well make a VerySlowRoll that updates at the frequency of a fixed release like Debian Stable or Ubuntu LTS while they are at it.

Best of all worlds. Packages are taken directly from Tumbleweed at fixed release intervals of two years, and they are not stuck with ensuring compatibility or lockstep with SUSE Enterprise, so there's absolutely no duplication of effort. Tumbleweed is SlowRoll is VerySlowRoll.

The challenge is that the farther the drift from current Tumbleweed, the more maintenance you need for security backports. If Slowroll is only ever 1 or 2 months behind Tumbleweed, I bet you can fix most security issues by just fast tracking an updated package from Tumbleweed into Slowroll (along with any updated dependencies in rare cases).

[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

Yes a very bad idea... because i use it now on nearly 400 Servers 😒

For servers you'll be fine. There will be 1:1 OpenSUSE versions of ALP. It's desktop where the uncertainty lives.

[Sonadow]

They might as well make a VerySlowRoll that updates at the frequency of a fixed release like Debian Stable or Ubuntu LTS while they are at it.

Best of all worlds. Packages are taken directly from Tumbleweed at fixed release intervals of two years, and they are not stuck with ensuring compatibility or lockstep with SUSE Enterprise, so there's absolutely no duplication of effort. Tumbleweed is SlowRoll is VerySlowRoll.

[Ground0]

Killing Leap is bad idea

Yes a very bad idea... because i use it now on nearly 400 Servers 😒

[jaypatelani]

Killing Leap is bad idea

[rhavenn]

As long as it "slowrolls" the core and keeps some of the more edge applications (Firefox, Chromium, Edge, PowerShell, ansible, terraform, etc...) recent I'm fine with that. However, if they start tracking Firefox ESR or just waiting a month to roll a new Firefox out then I'm out. I use Tumbleweed for a work box and Arch on a personal box.

I wish SUSE would work to get MS Defender for Endpoint supported for Tumbleweed vs. just SLES. Fedora is a supported distro.

[Davonious]

...Yeah, it's definitely very confusing at this point. Like is Slowroll going to be just a temporary solution until there's going to be a desktop variant of ALP in a few years, which then probably will be the actual Leap successor? But then I've also seen claims that ALP might not even be focused on the desktop...

I watched a fair number of the YouTube openSuse conference postings about a month ago, and it was plainly apparent that nobody but nobody knew what the hell was going on with the Desktop. It was also crystal clear that microOS / ALP was where enterprise was headed but that the undertaking was (my take) way larger than they ever expected. Honestly, it was painful to watch those System Devs duck and weave around anything resembling a concrete answer in response to some hard questions in the Open Forum sessions.

[Awesomeness]

This is actually very cool.