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Originally posted by RealNC View PostI suppose most people are using Ubuntu and openSUSE due to their "user friendliness". Me, I use Gentoo I've had enough with distros that make you keep old software for half a year or more at which point they provide major updates.
So I wanted a "rolling release" distro that is versionless. The most popular choices were Archlinux and Gentoo. I've tried them both and liked Gentoo better. Now I get software updates when they're ready, not when Ubuntu/openSUSE/Fedora/Debian/whatever decide it's time for a new distro release. This was one of the things I missed in Linux when compared to Windows; software updates when the software in question actually comes out. On Gentoo (and I suppose there are some more but less popular rolling distros), there's a new Firefox, you get it very soon and without breaking your system (see "Debian Sid" or "openSUSE Head/Factory").
I'm happy and I never looked back since.
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There's a dozen other things I could write here about things in Gentoo (and Arch) I simply love. Live ebuilds for installing from SVN/Git/etc using the package manager (with full dependency tracking and un-installation), USE flags, large package collection (rivals even Debian), dead-easy way to integrate custom patches (Cairo with ClearType for example) into the package manager... And I'm finding even new stuff today
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Originally posted by Aradreth View PostThat pretty much sums me up although I ended up with Arch instead of Gentoo as I prefer binaries with the possibility of building from source then the other way round.
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Originally posted by Ex-Cyber View PostAFAIK those messages are generated by manually coded checks in a handful of ebuilds, and have been around for a while. EAPI 2 seems to have "real" USE dependency support, but the migration looks like a long haul.
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Originally posted by RealNC View PostNo, it's part of portage now. No ebuild hacks or workarounds. There's a new syntax for ebuilds to specify USE deps.
Anyway, off to try my luck with Fedora 11.
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Originally posted by Ex-Cyber View PostRight, but the point of introducing the new syntax was to make the kind of messages you mentioned unnecessary, because the package manager can just rebuild the offending package(s) automatically instead of bugging the user with it.
What you propose here is an example of not really thinking about a problem
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gentoo
no jumping-through-loops to get mp3 or avi working
no 'we are smarter than thou' gui tools getting in my way
no rpm hell
no broken init (looking at you debian)
no hunting for header files (you are ALL guilty, fedora, suse, debian, ubuntu...)
easy to maintain
easy to setup
easy to repair
easy to de-crappify. I don't want gnome, nothing of it. Nor do I want sendmail. Or apache. Or gstreamer crap.
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Originally posted by energyman View Postgentoo
no jumping-through-loops to get mp3 or avi working
no 'we are smarter than thou' gui tools getting in my way
no rpm hell
no broken init (looking at you debian)
no hunting for header files (you are ALL guilty, fedora, suse, debian, ubuntu...)
easy to maintain
easy to setup
easy to repair
easy to de-crappify. I don't want gnome, nothing of it. Nor do I want sendmail. Or apache. Or gstreamer crap.
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'modern' soso... the last time I had to install mp3 in an opensuse install it wasn't pleasant at all and a lot more than 'just klicking on an unofficial package'. It was like replacing every multimedia related app on the system - and ignoring some crap by the installer. I pulled it of. The girl who owned the computer wasn't able to.
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