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Ubuntu 20.04 Atop ZFS+Zsys Will Take Snapshots On APT Operations
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Originally posted by mskarbek View Post
Insulting how? BtrFS is worked on and improved for how many years? It still doesn't work as it should, so I'm not surprised that Canonical started working with something that is actually usable. I'm just wondering how long this will go until Linux devs reexport everything as GPL-only to "punish" Canonical and others who would like to have something useful as a file system.
If you don't like the GPL, don't use Linux.
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Originally posted by Britoid View Post
I see including it as a little insulting to the upstream Linux developers, as surely it would be better to try and improve and work on btrfs.
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Originally posted by Britoid View Post
I see including it as a little insulting to the upstream Linux developers, as surely it would be better to try and improve and work on btrfs.
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Originally posted by mskarbek View PostI have this ZFS snapshotting implemented as a DNF hook since Fedora 29, nobody cares because of CDDL. I'm really curious how far will Canonical go on this integration route with OpenZFS and when somebody will start seriously complaining.
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Unless you run nothing else during apt transactions, this is bound to cause problems. A separate /home should be mandatory, at the bare minimum.
Or better yet, apt shouldn't solve apt problems at the filesystem layer. MSI supported rollbacks for decades. It may or may not install, but at least it won't break MSI installs altogether. At least I haven't seen such a case in my life. At least yum supports undo for reverting successful transactions, but with apt, they still haven't even figured out how to do a proper autoremove. Sometimes it removes all the packages that were installed as dependencies, sometimes it leaves a few. WHY.
Again, this boils down to the awfully designed FHS, because putting files in 10 separate, shared dirs with hundreds or thousands of files thrown together is so much better than each program having its own directory nice and clean. Plus the complete lack of a win32 alternative, leading to the dependency hell, still thriving after all these years. Yes, even with the likes of Flatpak.Last edited by anarki2; 07 March 2020, 12:59 PM.
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I have this ZFS snapshotting implemented as a DNF hook since Fedora 29, nobody cares because of CDDL. I'm really curious how far will Canonical go on this integration route with OpenZFS and when somebody will start seriously complaining.
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Ubuntu 20.04 Atop ZFS+Zsys Will Take Snapshots On APT Operations
Phoronix: Ubuntu 20.04 Atop ZFS+Zsys Will Take Snapshots On APT Operations
Ubuntu 20.04 is coming out next month and will be the first LTS release with Ubuntu desktop ZFS support available for the root file-system after it was made easy-to-deploy the Ubuntu desktop on ZFS last cycle. One of the areas being expanded upon with the ZFS support has been Ubuntu's Zsys daemon for offering extra functionality for ZFS-based setups...
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