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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostPython has bindings for GTK and Qt for basic stuff where you just want to throw up some basic windows with buttons https://python-gtk-3-tutorial.readth...simple-example
and this is provided by a package called python-gtk or python-qt5 (or similar) in most distros.
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Originally posted by vb_linux View PostSo, asking as someone who has no experience in GUI for these tools ? What do they use GTK, QT with python bindings ?
and this is provided by a package called python-gtk or python-qt5 (or similar) in most distros.
Or you can use its built-in GUI library tkinter https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/python-gui-tkinter/
There are also a bunch of library/bindings to control and interact with GNOME/KDE or system daemons.
For example, Virt-Manager https://virt-manager.org/ is an example of somewhat complex but purely utilitarian Python GUI application. Its performance isn't relevant as it's just a frontend for KVM/QEMU or other system daemons (dbus and SPICE among others).
Another such application (a VPN manager) is Qomui https://github.com/corrad1nho/qomui
For more complex and good-looking stuff there are like 10+ whole GUI frameworks, similar to what happens in Java. There is no shortage of frameworks in Python, it's a pretty big ecosystem now.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
As I said a few posts later https://www.phoronix.com/forums/foru...60#post1163660 I was talking in the context of system tools and applications, not payload applications where high performance matters.
I mean yes, Java is still very much faster and better than scripting languages for any serious application that needs performance.
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Originally posted by andyprough View Post
You're way out ahead of me, I was talking about one specific tool for accessing pacman history. My pea-sized brain can't keep up with the ponderings of your megabrain, sorry.
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Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
You went with the generic example of "Pacman helper tools" so I used the non-generic example of "ZFS Pacman helpers in the AUR". You're acting like all Pacman helpers are only in the Core repository when they're all over the place.
Feel free to replace "ZFS Pacman helpers in the AUR" with the more generic "any Pacman helper in the AUR" comment.
If you were more specific with "Pacman helper tools in Arch/distribution repositories" then there wouldn't be such a gaping flaw in your argument.
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Originally posted by andyprough View Post
This is all available under pacman or with its tools. Just because tools have been rolled directly into dnf doesn't change the actual behavior. End user doesn't give a crap if the package manager or its tools are doing the work.
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Originally posted by andyprough View Post
You appear to be having a conversation with yourself about ZFS backup, which I have said nothing about and have zero interest in. But please, don't mind me, proceed...
Feel free to replace "ZFS Pacman helpers in the AUR" with the more generic "any Pacman helper in the AUR" comment.
If you were more specific with "Pacman helper tools in Arch/distribution repositories" then there wouldn't be such a gaping flaw in your argument.
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Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
Are you retarded? Here's our entire conversation.
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