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Originally posted by halo9en
As already explained above by Ronshere, Tox Project (tox.chat) is not Tox: "They are NSA Officers writing Botnet software" https://blog.tox.im/2016/04/01/litigation/
Go talk to the actual developers if you want more details, they're there on Freenode.
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Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
Nope, it's the other way round. The tox.im domain was registered by a person who went rogue, and thus all actual developers had to move to tox.chat instead. Thus the former is now used as a platform to spread lies.
Go talk to the actual developers if you want more details, they're there on Freenode.
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This is also indirectly excellent news for opensource folks :
- The fact that this is simply a desktopified webapp (id est, it's basically web.skype.com running in its own chromium-based renderer) means that Microsoft is considering the web api (a mix of XML and JSON according to those who have looked into it) as the official stable API of the future.
- Current unofficial plugins 3rd party (e.g.: the libpurplre plugin for pidgin/adium/etc. by the excellent Eion Robb) are already using this web API to communicate with Skype (because the older SkypeAPI IPC API is getting deprecated).
- Microsoft HAS NOT shown any intention to sue such 3rd party effort, unlike other companies (WhatsApp, I'm looking at you !!!)
That means that things like my current stack (pidgin + skypeweb plugin + optionnally OTR plugin) is going to stay stable in the long term.
(Last but not least: pidgin+skypeweb plugin CAN keep your own personal copy of your chat logs, even if web.skype.com only features a limited back range)
Same thinking is also valid regarding Voice and Video calls : by adding the official HTML5 standard WebRTC next to their own Microsoft's Edge's ORTP (because, obviously, they need id to make it work in their chromium-based webapp renderer) means that this open web standard will also be their official standard for Linux in the future.
Means that opensource 3rd party plugins can start to work toward supporting it (and the good news is that most linux media frameworks like gstreamer and phonon also start to have WebRTC support, making it even more possible in the future).
Means also that ZRTP encryption could easily get used between compatible client featuring it (Jisti, I'm look at you, please start supporting web.skype.com / Pidgin, I'm looking at you, please start supporting ZRTP encryption for media calls).
Originally posted by AnAk View PostDo they still spy on your computer with it?
I'm sure that this new Linux Alpha Client is as full of exploitable back-door and law-abiding wiretaps as its predecessor.
In fact that's what I suspect was the main motivation of making a desktopified webapp: they can introduce the necessary wiretaps points required by laws in the wrapper that calls the chromium web renderer.
Originally posted by arabek View PostAlready noticed, that the new version does not support p2p group chats The one and only functionality i really ever use.
(see the disappearance of "super-nodes". now it's just Microsoft-owned servers doing the relay jobs)
So you can bet that there will be no "p2p group chats", but client-server "chatroom"-style group chats (as currently supported by SkypeWeb).
But again these two don't worry me in the long term:
- there will be open source 3rd party plugins supporting the skype web API.
- it will be harder to hide exploits and backdoor in open source apps.
- you'll be able to layer OTR and ZRTP above those and make end-to-end encryption despite all the shit that Microsoft might be legally required to do.
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