KDE Frameworks 5 Has Been Officially Released

[curaga]

I'm open to alternative browsers, but in this Orwellian world, they have to come with the important extensions from firefox.

And that is the killer feature of FF, always has been. It's hard to switch after you get used to NoScript, CS Lite, Ghostery, Secret Agent and the like.

Per-site JS is part of Opera's per-site settings since at least version 9.
Cookie control of CS Lite doesn't seem more flexible than Opera's, it just has different UI (the toolbar button).
Ghostery seems to be a blocklist (supported) plus some cookie read prevention (missing).
Secret Agent spoofs many values.

More than half of that is already targeted by Otter, being Opera features. Why use addons if the functionality is available natively?

For your spoofing needs, stay tuned to this phoronix channel, at this phoronix time.

[Daktyl198]

I'm open to alternative browsers, but in this Orwellian world, they have to come with the important extensions from firefox.

And that is the killer feature of FF, always has been. It's hard to switch after you get used to NoScript, CS Lite, Ghostery, Secret Agent and the like.

On their TODO list is this:
- extensions (Firefox and Chrome APIs support)

[pingufunkybeat]

I would think Otter-Browser would be a better choice here, personally. It (with it's goal to match Opera 12.x features completely in Qt5.x) seems to match KDE and it's users much better than the minimalist Midori. If it got the KDE SC developers behind it and they could improve upon the interface a lot, I'd probably use it as my main browser.

I'm open to alternative browsers, but in this Orwellian world, they have to come with the important extensions from firefox.

And that is the killer feature of FF, always has been. It's hard to switch after you get used to NoScript, CS Lite, Ghostery, Secret Agent and the like.

[Daktyl198]

I don't think Midori has direct ties with Xfce, but that doesn't stop Xfce from recommending Midori as the default browser.

I would think Otter-Browser would be a better choice here, personally. It (with it's goal to match Opera 12.x features completely in Qt5.x) seems to match KDE and it's users much better than the minimalist Midori. If it got the KDE SC developers behind it and they could improve upon the interface a lot, I'd probably use it as my main browser.

[GreatEmerald]

There is also no new default icon theme planned for the 4.x branch - that is in the 5.x space. At least, AFIAK.

Oh, yes, I thought you were talking about KF5.

[bakgwailo]

KDE SC 4, you mean? Or just kdelibs 4? And they do have a new icon theme, but they're taking things slowly. It will be released when it's fully done. Though I'll most likely keep using Oxygen, those icons are amazing.

I mean KDE 4, which is now know as the collection of KDE SC 4 and kdelibs 4. It is just easier to say KDE 4.13.x, instead of KDE SC 4.13.x on top of KDE Frameworks 4.11.x. There is also no new default icon theme planned for the 4.x branch - that is in the 5.x space. At least, AFIAK.

[Luke_Wolf]

I always thought that "Qt 5.3" was quite obvious, but maybe this kind of naming does indeed need some explanation.

The "Qt" part is actually the name of the product, a multi-platform application development framework. It already had that name under its original owner, Trolltech, so is unlikely to be changed by any subsequent party for continuation reasons.

The "5.3" part is something usually referred to as a version number. It looks like a general floating point number but it is not.
I guess this is where you have problems with understanding.

It is basically two numbers joined into a tuple by a dot:

- the first number, in this case 5, is called the major version. It refers to which generation of the product one is looking at
- the second number, in this case 3, is called the minor version. It refers to an incremental improvement step within the generation.

So "Qt 5.3" is the 5th generation of a product named Qt, after its 3rd improvement iteration cycle.

This kind of naming scheme is actually quite common for software, you will very likely find it on lots of other products.

Hope this helps you to understand this better

Cheers,
_

You sir just won 5 internets

[gufide]

I always thought that "Qt 5.3" was quite obvious, but maybe this kind of naming does indeed need some explanation.

The "Qt" part is actually the name of the product, a multi-platform application development framework. It already had that name under its original owner, Trolltech, so is unlikely to be changed by any subsequent party for continuation reasons.

The "5.3" part is something usually referred to as a version number. It looks like a general floating point number but it is not.
I guess this is where you have problems with understanding.

It is basically two numbers joined into a tuple by a dot:

- the first number, in this case 5, is called the major version. It refers to which generation of the product one is looking at
- the second number, in this case 3, is called the minor version. It refers to an incremental improvement step within the generation.

So "Qt 5.3" is the 5th generation of a product named Qt, after its 3rd improvement iteration cycle.

This kind of naming scheme is actually quite common for software, you will very likely find it on lots of other products.

Hope this helps you to understand this better

Cheers,
_

Omg! I think you killed a troll! You are a hero! So the prophecy was true...

btw good job KDE team! I must try the framework in my next application, look like a lot of cleanups happened!

[GreatEmerald]

I haven't heard that. It would surprise me. Last I heard there were still people maintaining khtml. I think as long as that is the case konqueror will stay around. Besides, with konqueror gone KDE would have no default web browser (last I heard the maintainer of rekonq didn't want to be tied to KDE SC releases, although that may be a moot point with frameworks 5).

I don't think Midori has direct ties with Xfce, but that doesn't stop Xfce from recommending Midori as the default browser.

[anda_skoa]

It's Digia's fault for coming up with PR names (which are always shitty) instead of mnemonic ones, so don't blame the guy, blame the idiots taking naming decisions.

I always thought that "Qt 5.3" was quite obvious, but maybe this kind of naming does indeed need some explanation.

The "Qt" part is actually the name of the product, a multi-platform application development framework. It already had that name under its original owner, Trolltech, so is unlikely to be changed by any subsequent party for continuation reasons.

The "5.3" part is something usually referred to as a version number. It looks like a general floating point number but it is not.
I guess this is where you have problems with understanding.

It is basically two numbers joined into a tuple by a dot:

- the first number, in this case 5, is called the major version. It refers to which generation of the product one is looking at
- the second number, in this case 3, is called the minor version. It refers to an incremental improvement step within the generation.

So "Qt 5.3" is the 5th generation of a product named Qt, after its 3rd improvement iteration cycle.

This kind of naming scheme is actually quite common for software, you will very likely find it on lots of other products.

Hope this helps you to understand this better

Cheers,
_