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Mozilla Decides Against Ads In The New Tab Page
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Sorry, NO ad-supported software is ever OK with me
Originally posted by psychoticmeow View PostSo the only thing you have against them is a slippery slope and a straw man. Got it, thanks.
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Can the personal attacks
Originally posted by psychoticmeow View PostHere's news: it's already ad-supported. By Google. Shut the fuck up you crackpot.
Starting up Firefox does not pop up an ad for Google. The searchbox integration is another problem but is a direct product inclusion as opposed to an advertisement for a product. I've always disabled that "feature," of course. Again: if it were not for browser fingerprinting I would use rekonq for everything, but I'm quite glad Mozilla threw in the towel on those nasty ad tiles. For now, the position I support has won, the corporatist position has lost a battle
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Originally posted by Luke View PostSorry, but when you get called out by someone like Phoronix for advertising, it's pretty blatent.
Starting up Firefox does not pop up an ad for Google. The searchbox integration is another problem but is a direct product inclusion as opposed to an advertisement for a product.
Originally posted by Luke View PostI've always disabled that "feature," of course. Again: if it were not for browser fingerprinting I would use rekonq for everything, but I'm quite glad Mozilla threw in the towel on those nasty ad tiles. For now, the position I support has won, the corporatist position has lost a battle
You're exactly as bad as RMS when he explains that Arch Linux is actually Arch GNU/Linux.
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Originally posted by psychoticmeow View PostSo you'd drop Mozilla if they did a thing they never even said or had plans to do? Useful information that...
Originally posted by psychoticmeow View PostSo what constitutes an advertisement then? Do you have some new definition that you'd like to share with us? Because this is the "Mozilla Firefox Start Page" and to my eyes it contains an advertisement, and has done so for years:
Your position is rather extreme, and lacks any real reason to support it, and all of the things you say claim about Firefox seem to be demonstrably wrong, or built on straw man arguments. Basically your reasons are ideological, and you should argue for that ideology instead of making bullshit arguments that only undermine your own credibility.
You're exactly as bad as RMS when he explains that Arch Linux is actually Arch GNU/Linux.
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Originally posted by b15hop View PostSo you're saying they never will but yet they do it already. Contradiction much?
Originally posted by nirvanix View PostFrom what I understand, Mozilla already receives many millions of dollars from having google as the default search. More than enough for a non-profit web browser. I will drop Mozilla if they force ads on the tab page - and yes a suggested link is still an ad.
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Ads in first run/default is forced ads
Originally posted by psychoticmeow View PostOr not, because I wasn't saying that they'd never advertise, but instead replying to your agreement with this:
The bit in bold is the thing that they never were going to do. Essentially he made up a position out of straw, and then you agreed with him, despite myself and others pointing out that the facts of the matter were not consistent with his position.
Some of us do not buy the idea of compromising with things deemed totally unacceptable. Sometimes you have to draw the line and defend it without exception. That's why I dumped Google and Chromium, and kept Firefox pinned at version 26 until this was resolved-and a homophobic former CEO stepped down. Perhaps the adware departed with him?
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Originally posted by Luke View PostThe only people who would NOT be forced to view the ads (sponsored tiles) at least once would be those who already had a .mozilla directory from an older install-and rejected any solicitations to "reset Firefox for a clean experience" as I once saw and rejected after some clock issues. ANYTHING present by default is forced on first run unless you want to edit configuration files by hand prior to first run, or compile from source with the offending code removed.
Some of us do not buy the idea of compromising with things deemed totally unacceptable. Sometimes you have to draw the line and defend it without exception. That's why I dumped Google and Chromium, and kept Firefox pinned at version 26 until this was resolved-and a homophobic former CEO stepped down. Perhaps the adware departed with him?
I'm using Waterfox at the moment, version 28... And I'm considering to find another browser already. I'm watching the direction firefox is heading and I'm not liking it. I refused chromium from the onset due to it's googlecentric favours. Even if it's easy to use and pretty clean, up to date etc....
I like a browser to have 6 main features:
Light weight, ie not bloated
Fast - render web pages fast etc..
Support newer HTML5 standards
No advertising -No favouring towards either google or microsoft. Ie neutral...
Secure
And I like some of my settings like bookmarks able to be saved to cloud (of your own choice)
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It doesn't really matter anyway.
Firefox will start encrypting HTML with EME and the web will go from open source to closed source.
An anonymous reader writes "Last year the W3C approved the inclusion of DRM in future HTML revisions. It's called Encrypted Media Extensions, and it was not well received by the web community. Nevertheless, it had the support of several major browser makers, and now Mozilla CTO Andreas Gal has a pos...
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