The First Release Of LXQt Is Now Available

[peppercats]

cinnamon is really lightweight for being so similar to gnome3

[scjet]

LXQt; so far so good

Yep,
No silly gtk depends, and thus, less likely systemd-(blob) depends.
Qt libs are much nicer now too, ever since gtk3, ..., got lost in systemd land.

[Vim_User]

Yep,
No silly gtk depends, and thus, less likely systemd-(blob) depends.
Qt libs are much nicer now too, ever since gtk3, ..., got lost in systemd land.

Keep in mind that if you use it with Kwin to get Wayland support later, you will still end up with systemd dependencies.

[Nobu]

Yep,
No silly gtk depends, and thus, less likely systemd-(blob) depends.
Qt libs are much nicer now too, ever since gtk3, ..., got lost in systemd land.

You mean Gnome. You can use gtk3 as much as you like, with or without systemd:

$ pacman -Si gtk3
Repository     : extra
Name           : gtk3
Version        : 3.12.1-2
Description    : GObject-based multi-platform GUI toolkit (v3)
Architecture   : x86_64
URL            : http://www.gtk.org/
Licenses       : LGPL
Groups         : None
Provides       : None
Depends On     : atk  cairo  gtk-update-icon-cache  libcups  libxcursor  libxinerama  libxrandr  libxi
                 libxcomposite  libxdamage  pango  shared-mime-info  colord  at-spi2-atk  wayland
                 libxkbcommon
Optional Deps  : gnome-themes-standard: Default widget theme
                 gnome-icon-theme: Default icon theme
Conflicts With : None
Replaces       : None
Download Size  : 8528.81 KiB
Installed Size : 62397.00 KiB
Packager       : Jan de Groot <scrubbed>
Build Date     : Mon 21 Apr 2014 09:36:25 AM MDT
Validated By   : MD5 Sum  SHA256 Sum  Signature

[oleid]

You mean Gnome. You can use gtk3 as much as you like, with or without systemd:

He means nothing. You can use GNOME3 without systemd, as it is done on the *BSDs

http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20140219085851

https://www.bsdfrog.org/tmp/undeadly-gnome.webm

[Nobu]

No, he meant Gnome, whether it's true or not.

And we all know (or should) that Gnome doesn't depend on systemd, but its functionality which nothing else that is currently maintained provides. You don't need to point it out as if everyone who doesn't spell it out whenever they make a post even remotely related to it is trying to be malicious. fuck. >_>

[oleid]

Oh you must not leave disinformation uncommented, as otherwise someone else will stumble across that very information and takes it for true and spreads it in some other forum. This process is self-fertilizing and thus has to be stopped. It applies to any disinformation, not only to stuff considering GNOME.

[Vim_User]

He means nothing. You can use GNOME3 without systemd, if you are OK with reduced functionality, as it is done on the *BSDs

http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20140219085851

https://www.bsdfrog.org/tmp/undeadly-gnome.webm

Fixed that for you.

[Akka]

Yep,
No silly gtk depends, and thus, less likely systemd-(blob) depends.
Qt libs are much nicer now too, ever since gtk3, ..., got lost in systemd land.

I bet they need systemd for wayland as everyone else

[oleid]

Fixed that for you.

That was a while ago. Meanwhile, there is systemd-shim and logind-shim. Those provide the needed dbus interfaces without systemd running as PID1. It's already in debian.