KDE 4.13 Is Being Released Today With New Features

[cfeck]

Favorites Launcher

In KDE 4.11 I had the favourite's menu in mouse actions and I loved it. In 4.12 they removed this feature
I hope it is back now.

The Favorites Launcher is not part of the KDE release, but a third party add on. Either install it from source, or ask your distribution to offer packages.

http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Favorites+Launcher?content=117639

[Awesomeness]

I thought 4.13 was the last 4.x version until Frameworks 5 comes out.

KF5 only means that the applications can now be ported in a relatively safe manner. The apps are expected to be ported last.

[anda_skoa]

I thought 4.13 was the last 4.x version until Frameworks 5 comes out.

That would be the opposite of one of the main goals of Frameworks 5, i.e. to decouple releases of the frameworks from releases of the applications.

Basically a repetition of the KDE 4.0 situation, where already ported applications needed to hold back because others had not finished porting yet.

Given the shortened release cycle it would be overly optimistic that all applications, including their domain specific libraries, could be ported in the available time for a frameworks based release instead of KDE SC 4.14

I doubt that all application developer have already started porting, I am pretty sure some will wait for the KF5 release and maybe even do a Qt4 based feature release after that if they have already invested time in new things.

KDE SC 4.14 is quite a safe bet given that there is already a draft schedule for it http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KD...lease_Schedule
And I wouldn't be surprised if there was a 4.15 afterwards.

Cheers,
_

[molecule-eye]

Maybe.
I am somewhat optimistic that the UI will be improved for 4.14

Cheers,
_

I thought 4.13 was the last 4.x version until Frameworks 5 comes out.

[Awesomeness]

Searching "baloo kde" in google once again returns results where people are asking how to disable it on front page.

That's because some people are too stupid to let it just index stuff for a while. Spotlight has to build an index first, Thunderbird does, and GNU Findutils not only requires initial indexing but regular re-indexing as well.

The time those idiot spend to find out how to disable it, could just as easily be spend letting the PC index the files because once it's done, Nepomuk 2 and now Baloo have zero impact on performance.

I don't know any other backup/indexing software that works like this. They all WHITELIST.

Spotlight on OSX uses blacklists: http://images.sayzlim.net/2010/11/spotlight_privacy.jpg

[anda_skoa]

I've heard the same, but it's no consolation as there's no reason to think anyone will ever include these options in the UI, or at least no reason to think they'll do it any time soon. This isn't killing me or anything, but is a major annoyance.

Maybe.
I am somewhat optimistic that the UI will be improved for 4.14

Cheers,
_

[molecule-eye]

My understanding is that this is a limitation of the UI, the config itself can both white and black list.
I doubt that the UI will stay as minimalistic as it is now though.

Cheers,
_

I've heard the same, but it's no consolation as there's no reason to think anyone will ever include these options in the UI, or at least no reason to think they'll do it any time soon. This isn't killing me or anything, but is a major annoyance.

[anda_skoa]

My main gripe with Baloo isn't that there's no obvious option for disabling it, but that there's no obvious way of whitelisting folders for indexing. Instead they've gone with a blacklist which is super annoying, where the home folder is indexed by default. I have only a few folders I want indexed so I have to blacklist everything except these folders. I don't know any other backup/indexing software that works like this. They all WHITELIST.

My understanding is that this is a limitation of the UI, the config itself can both white and black list.
I doubt that the UI will stay as minimalistic as it is now though.

Cheers,
_

[molecule-eye]

Thanks for clarifying. There is nothing bad about trying to fix things, yet it is odd that baloo is offered as drop-in solution to nepomuk while it really is not drop-in and looking at comments its ability to fix problems is also questionable at this point. Searching "baloo kde" in google once again returns results where people are asking how to disable it on front page.

My main gripe with Baloo isn't that there's no obvious option for disabling it, but that there's no obvious way of whitelisting folders for indexing. Instead they've gone with a blacklist which is super annoying, where the home folder is indexed by default. I have only a few folders I want indexed so I have to blacklist everything except these folders. I don't know any other backup/indexing software that works like this. They all WHITELIST.

[daedaluz]

KDE Frameworks and Desktop (Plasma) are in bug-fix mode while they focus on FW5/Plasma2.

KDE Applications, however, were encouraged to keep focusing on the 4.13 release. Now that it's out, i suspect most of them will also switch their main focus over to Qt5/FW5.

If there's that many things you don't like, then fine. You probably just aren't going to like it. But it's strange that you seem to think baloo is something bad, considering that it's whole reason for existence was to fix the bad nepomuk/indexing experience you were complaining about.

Thanks for clarifying. There is nothing bad about trying to fix things, yet it is odd that baloo is offered as drop-in solution to nepomuk while it really is not drop-in and looking at comments its ability to fix problems is also questionable at this point. Searching "baloo kde" in google once again returns results where people are asking how to disable it on front page.