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Originally posted by Alex Sarmiento View PostGtk should be dead by now, along with gnome
Build everything on one toolkit (which is non-GPL due to CLA), and when MS comes to kill it, your are screwed.
Becides, why would everyone alternativelessly want KDE? Qt and GTK both require about 40MiB of RAM to run.
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Originally posted by brosis View PostThis is stupid.
Build everything on one toolkit (which is non-GPL due to CLA), and when MS comes to kill it, your are screwed.
Becides, why would everyone alternativelessly want KDE? Qt and GTK both require about 40MiB of RAM to run.
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Originally posted by brosis View PostThis is stupid.
Build everything on one toolkit (which is non-GPL due to CLA), and when MS comes to kill it, your are screwed.
Qt is licensed under LGPL 2.1 and GPL 3 and when somebody tries to kill it, the entire Qt project becomes BSD-licensed.
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Originally posted by Alex Sarmiento View PostGtk should be dead by now, along with gnome
And then there's all the applications that depend on Gtk (either 2 or 3). A lot of them are applications that don't have any real equivalent in Qt and no one is really interested in porting them to it. There's no good reason to kill Gtk. Diversity is a good thing here.
IMO, what we really need is a sort of meta-toolkit, a library that people can build apps on, which can then use whatever actual toolkit - Gtk2, Gtk3, Qt, EFL, etc. - as a backend, and being totally transparent about it to the actual program. That'd be a good thing for attracting application developers who're coming from the windows/mac os worlds and want to develop for linux, it would give them a clear target to develop for, that would get their apps working in any desktop. It would also be good for the interoperability and collaboration between desktops and toolkits.
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Originally posted by dee. View PostIMO, what we really need is a sort of meta-toolkit, a library that people can build apps on, which can then use whatever actual toolkit - Gtk2, Gtk3, Qt, EFL, etc. - as a backend, and being totally transparent about it to the actual program. That'd be a good thing for attracting application developers who're coming from the windows/mac os worlds and want to develop for linux, it would give them a clear target to develop for, that would get their apps working in any desktop. It would also be good for the interoperability and collaboration between desktops and toolkits.
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Originally posted by dee. View PostGtk is not used only by GNOME. It's also used by Xfce, LXDE, Cinnamon, Mate, whatever that thing is the SolusOS guys are building... Qt? Let's see, there's KDE, Razor-Qt... that's about it.
And then there's all the applications that depend on Gtk (either 2 or 3). A lot of them are applications that don't have any real equivalent in Qt and no one is really interested in porting them to it. There's no good reason to kill Gtk. Diversity is a good thing here.
IMO, what we really need is a sort of meta-toolkit, a library that people can build apps on, which can then use whatever actual toolkit - Gtk2, Gtk3, Qt, EFL, etc. - as a backend, and being totally transparent about it to the actual program. That'd be a good thing for attracting application developers who're coming from the windows/mac os worlds and want to develop for linux, it would give them a clear target to develop for, that would get their apps working in any desktop. It would also be good for the interoperability and collaboration between desktops and toolkits.
This is not practical for various reasons.
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Originally posted by dee. View PostGtk is not used only by GNOME. It's also used by [?] LXDE
Originally posted by dee. View PostCinnamon
Originally posted by dee. View PostMate
Originally posted by dee. View PostQt? Let's see, there's KDE, Razor-Qt... that's about it.
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Originally posted by Awesomeness View PostAbout to be abandoned and the maintainer seems to join Razor-qt: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fro...qt/aRfqM_W_ODQ
Doesn't use GTK at all.
GNOME fork
Skype, VLC, BlackBerry 10, Ubuntu Touch, MeeGo, Tizen IVI,?
What does Mate being a fork of Gnome have to do with anything? Lots of things are forks of other things, that doesn't necessarily make them any less valid things.
Skype, VLC etc. are not desktop environments. If we go on to consider all types of applications, then there are still tons of GTK apps, many of which still don't have any Qt-based equivalents, nor is anyone really interested in porting them to Qt. GIMP, Inkscape, Transmission, GParted, Firefox, just to name a few.
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