Originally posted by FLHerne
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Much-ppa'd Mint KDE, and I know that's probably not the best solution. 
I might try Arch when I get time and/or a new HDD, presumably you'd recommend it...
I was previously a Debian user, got fed up of the constant outdatedness (even in Testing).
Power management is very broken - buttons don't do anything, DBus messages don't do anything, pretty much nothing does except shutdown -h -P now.
. Screenlocker is quite shiny, but has the alarming characteristic of displaying the desktop/windows (no interaction, it hangs momentarily) for a bit before it slaps the locker on and asks for a password after resuming from suspend*.
Plasmoid-wise, the device notifier doesn't reliably notify me about new devices, when it does the device action buttons often don't actually do anything. Notifications have a tendency to pop up where the bottom corner on my screen would be if it was 1024x768, the weather widget crashed plasma-desktop twice** while trying to get me a forecast, and the comic strip*** has had so many features stripped out (resizing to currently-displayed strip, show icons instead of words in the tab-bar...) that it's all but unusable in any role. It's useful if you want to look at exactly one comic, in which every strip is always an identical size - so not even Calvin&Hobbes, let alone the dozen-or-so wildly varying ones I had.
*Yes, suspend works very occasionally, perhaps PM isn't _completely_ broken...
**plasma-desktop has crashed itself a dozen times in a week, too. Given that 4.7 was quite good, 4.8 crashed once and I had no crashes at alll with 4.9, that's quite a big step back.
***It's not actually _important_, if important means productive, but I don't see the point in replacing something non-broken with something that simply isn't close to equivalent. Quite ridiculous.
It certainly won't put me off KDE as a one-off (I put up with 4.0, after all
) - but it's certainly reduced my confidence that the devs are paying enough attention to QA; there are just so many things broken for me in this release.
I might try Arch when I get time and/or a new HDD, presumably you'd recommend it...I was previously a Debian user, got fed up of the constant outdatedness (even in Testing).
Power management is very broken - buttons don't do anything, DBus messages don't do anything, pretty much nothing does except shutdown -h -P now.
. Screenlocker is quite shiny, but has the alarming characteristic of displaying the desktop/windows (no interaction, it hangs momentarily) for a bit before it slaps the locker on and asks for a password after resuming from suspend*.Plasmoid-wise, the device notifier doesn't reliably notify me about new devices, when it does the device action buttons often don't actually do anything. Notifications have a tendency to pop up where the bottom corner on my screen would be if it was 1024x768, the weather widget crashed plasma-desktop twice** while trying to get me a forecast, and the comic strip*** has had so many features stripped out (resizing to currently-displayed strip, show icons instead of words in the tab-bar...) that it's all but unusable in any role. It's useful if you want to look at exactly one comic, in which every strip is always an identical size - so not even Calvin&Hobbes, let alone the dozen-or-so wildly varying ones I had.
*Yes, suspend works very occasionally, perhaps PM isn't _completely_ broken...
**plasma-desktop has crashed itself a dozen times in a week, too. Given that 4.7 was quite good, 4.8 crashed once and I had no crashes at alll with 4.9, that's quite a big step back.
***It's not actually _important_, if important means productive, but I don't see the point in replacing something non-broken with something that simply isn't close to equivalent. Quite ridiculous.
It certainly won't put me off KDE as a one-off (I put up with 4.0, after all
) - but it's certainly reduced my confidence that the devs are paying enough attention to QA; there are just so many things broken for me in this release.1) File bug reports
2) Test it on a system other than Debian/Ubuntu based before you really make a judgement.
Why #2? Ubuntu and Debian add patches, pull from git, backport changes, they do a lot of crap that can screw it up. Its one of the reasons I moved to Arch, I got tired of Ubuntu messing with Upstream. At least with Arch I know its from an actual release branch (not git-master) and they probably didnt add patches in. My recommendations are Arch (obviously) or openSuse, if either of those distros still have the bugs you're facing (you could prob test openSuse from the latest release candidate live image) then report them. If not, chalk it up to being library version incompatibilities since you're mixing PPA's / patches from non-upstream / random ubuntu crap.
I have had literally NONE of the problems you're describing, though I dont use the comic strip (do use the weather though, no problems) so its got to be something specific to your combination of software (/software versions)
Now go die.
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