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GNOME 3.8 Is Dropping Its Fallback Mode
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Originally posted by squirrl View PostNo BS, he's not in the Computer Science department, literally.
Wonder how he learned to code? Given he is listed as a Senior Software Engineer
although his last job was Senior Systems Architect; Computing Lead: Advanced Camera for Surveys. WTF??
Systems Architect isn't coding. It's building computers and loading operating systems.
For fukz sake RedHat. You hiring amateurs?
Besides, I've seen plenty of lower-primates graduating with CS degrees, yet prove to have no practical use whatsoever. I'd much rather have someone self-taught from a different discipline, than some of the morons who studied CS theory and think they know what they're doing.
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Originally posted by uid313 View PostWhat code gets removed with fallback mode?
From my reading of desktop-devel-list, there's also a lot of small stuff scattered through Gnome's configuration and session management code (control-panel, gdm, gnome-session, etc).
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Originally posted by squirrl View PostYes, actually I will. Lack of discipline that comes with the education is part of the reason GNU, Xorg, and various other projects are in their current states.
Would you want a doctor who never attended Medical School?
Example:
Had you completed a basic Computer Science education track, you'd have taken a Senior level class called Software Engineering.
They teach you the basics about deliverables, requirements gathering, and project management.
Essentially, you learn all the phases of actually developing software from providing time-lines to delivering an installation media.
Hence the problem with Gnome 3. Who gathered the requirements? Who was the customer?
(for the record, i do know the class schedule, as i was doing a software engineering degree, just didn't complete it. i spent the next few years actually scoping, discussing, planning, implementing, and completing projects instead. thanks for the advice tho.)
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Originally posted by BO$$ View Postinternally I think gnome shell is better than gnome 2 (I cannot guarantee this, I read it somewhere and judging by so many devs jumping onto gnome shell I think it's true)
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Originally posted by Licaon View Postfar less used maybe, but it's been *the other GTK* DE/WM for at least 5 years
Polls I've seen over the years indicate that Xfce in the past had a user base of 3%?10% and after Unity and Gnome Shell a user base of 10%?20%. Obviously single polls are hardly representative but IMO the general trend is: Xfce is gaining users and the once dominating Gnome desktop (with ~50%, depending on the poll) split its user base into 3 factions (standard Gnome, Unity, and Xfce) with roughly equal size.
So I keep my position: Not knowing about Xfce two years ago is IMO understandable.
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Originally posted by BO$$ View PostWhat is this arrogance that nobody is allowed to criticize your work? Are you some kind of an ideal?
This is my opinion... and like everyone one with an opinion I know I'm right :P
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Fallback mode... I felt it was "make Gnome3 partially usable again" mode...
I'll probably look at switching to xfce or something. I've used Gnome for years, but with Gnome3, it starting getting completely cumbersome and hard to use. I guess it depends on how you use it though. Though that is probably because I am much more comfortable with launch and running everything from a terminal and command line.
It just feels clumsy. Especially when you using 2-4 monitors. I mean, Linux and Unix machines(that run X) have usually always had at least two monitors. It seems they are making these changes with out thinking additional displays. Even Microsoft has made Windows work nicely with multiple displays in the last 10 years.
Well, I guess I won't need to worry about it too much, RHEL 5 and 6 are on Gnome2. Which is what I need to do most all my work on.
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I do like gnome 3 if gnome-shell don't eat too much cpu time( for this reason, I return to fedora 16 from f17), how about gnome 3.6 and 3.7 (and 4.0)?
I really think gnome 3 is far much better than gnome2. Don't drop the fallback mode please, let it better and faster, and more beautifull.
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