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Originally posted by jayrulez View PostSo Ubuntu should be held back in order to be compatible with other distros that cannot provide what Ubuntu provides?
That's what decent and respected distributions do. Look at Fedora -- they wrote much of Ubuntu. It would be nice if Ubuntu wrote a piece of Fedora instead of coming up with new inovative business methods to exclude Fedora users.
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Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View PostNo, they should contribute something back to the ecosystem which provided 99% of all the software that makes their distro.
That's what decent and respected distributions do. Look at Fedora -- they wrote much of Ubuntu. It would be nice if Ubuntu wrote a piece of Fedora instead of coming up with new inovative business methods to exclude Fedora users.
Are you suggesting that the sole or fundamental purpose in Canonical providing an SDK for Ubuntu is to exclude others?
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Originally posted by jayrulez View PostAre you suggesting that the sole or fundamental purpose in Canonical providing an SDK for Ubuntu is to exclude others?
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Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View PostNo, and I don't think that they are "evil" in the sense SCO was, or that they are bad guys. But this isolationist course is quite annoying.
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Originally posted by GreatEmerald View PostThis. To put it simply, there is no reason to make the SDK Ubuntu-specific. They should just make sure that it's modular, and one module is for Ubuntu integration. Then other distros could write their own to integrate into their distros. Then instead of one distribution winning, the whole system wins.
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This is another reason why I'm so glad for Arch. It's becoming increasingly, and amazingly, popular and it does it all under it's own steam.
Whilst things like an SDK do benefit Ubuntu I do actually increasingly feel Canonical are trying to exclude others. Due to some great work, for example, some clever guys have Unity running in Arch and maintain repos for it but it was not easy for them; they had to deal with every Ubuntu-introduced hack and patch under the sun, to the point where you need to build/install Ubuntu-patched variants of packages like even Xorg components D: It's just crazy.
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Originally posted by ElderSnake View PostThis is another reason why I'm so glad for Arch. It's becoming increasingly, and amazingly, popular and it does it all under it's own steam.
Whilst things like an SDK do benefit Ubuntu I do actually increasingly feel Canonical are trying to exclude others. Due to some great work, for example, some clever guys have Unity running in Arch and maintain repos for it but it was not easy for them; they had to deal with every Ubuntu-introduced hack and patch under the sun, to the point where you need to build/install Ubuntu-patched variants of packages like even Xorg components D: It's just crazy.
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Canonical does not, in any way, contribute to the GNU/Linux-morality. It may focus on an easy-to-use operating system, but on the way, they leave free software behind and don't let other Linux distributions benefit from their strive.
But to be honest, I really do not care about Unity. I actually hate it and it was a reason for me to switch to Gentoo (over Debian).
We have to let the users decide, even though it might bring up Ubuntu as the winner for being the best walled garden.
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Originally posted by frign View PostIt is a rather shocking development driven by the fact that some companies like Canonical discovered the potential of exploiting the many years of hard work of Linux enthusiasts to make a lot of money from it.
Canonical does not, in any way, contribute to the GNU/Linux-morality. It may focus on an easy-to-use operating system, but on the way, they leave free software behind and don't let other Linux distributions benefit from their strive.
But to be honest, I really do not care about Unity. I actually hate it and it was a reason for me to switch to Gentoo (over Debian).
We have to let the users decide, even though it might bring up Ubuntu as the winner for being the best walled garden.
Of course people could argue that their patches and work are necessary to make the software work better. But personally I've always found pure standalone Compiz to be much faster and more stable than the Unity/Ubuntu variant.
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