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Wicd hasa never worked for me. The Network Manager plasmoid does and I like how it integrates with KWallet, but it's not nearly as smooth as the gnome-applet.
In any case, this is a significant issue with KDE. This is 2011 when all devices are connected to the network - the lack of good integrated network management capabilities is a losing proposition.
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Originally posted by hdas View PostOverall, the stability of KDE as fallen dramatically since KDE 4.5. I found a few hard hitting bugs in KDE 4.6, but 4.7 has gone really low. I appreciate the immense hard work the KDE developers put in, especially that it is mostly all volunteer effort and I also understand that developers are free to work on whatever projects they are interested in. But I cannot help to see that they advertise all these fancy features like social integration, semantic desktop, composting effects and other random things nobody cares about, while standard features get neglected. I would add that last time I checked few months back, the kde networkmanager or knetworkmanager project is still not in a good shape - what good is all this social integration if you are not connected to the internet or you still have to use konsole to connect to internet to use a shiny interface for tweeting. Ironically, I am using nm-applet (from gnome) currently on my KDE 4.6 desktop.
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Originally posted by hdas View Post@ disi,
Its possible wicd is better. (I think at the time I started using networkmanager, it had more features than wicd, and if I remember correctly, the support for wpa2-enterprise wireless auth used at my university.) However, I am pretty content with networkmanager and nm-applet. nm-applet seems to have good support for vpn, but I ended up configuring manually without networkmanager.
I do feel KDE should maintain a networkmanager applet or some other applet for network connections. Given that nm-applet is fairly robust and mature, I think KDE should be able to offer something similar too.
I use wicd purely to connect wired or to wireless networks (also wpa2 encrypted). You can define everything in the kde client, like what modules to use and which scripts to run or run scripts on connection, static stuff etc.
Just no vpn per default (which you actual could script yourself and put it into the client)
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Originally posted by hdas View PostI would add that last time I checked few months back, the kde networkmanager or knetworkmanager project is still not in a good shape - what good is all this social integration if you are not connected to the internet or you still have to use konsole to connect to internet to use a shiny interface for tweeting. Ironically, I am using nm-applet (from gnome) currently on my KDE 4.6 desktop.
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Originally posted by zhu7916zhaosoWhile this bug was the primary reason I have reverted back to KDE 4.6, there are numerous other stability issues. KDE crashing on logout is a usual happening. Also there are random Nepomuk crashes and messages -- worst, I do not care for it or need it and do not know why is it part of the main distribution. Apparently the Changelog in KDE 4.7.3 claims to have fixed some of the Nepomuk issues. However in my opinion, KDE 4.7 should be marked as not-ready for production and should not be used until many of these bugs are fixed. It would come as a disappointment to those who are using anything stable (even if something ancient like Windows XP perhaps where basic things work).
AFAIK, the next step is to change the file visualization to be less like Windows Explorer and more like this.
a video of an early longhorn concept from 2003.( vista does not look like this)please visit ravenunderground.net
See the folder animations? Those are there with Dolphin 2.0.
Originally posted by zhu7916zhaoso
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@ TheBlackCat,
Sorry, I didn't notice activities till KDE 4.7. (At least I don't remember any activities button/bar, and I think the activities "desktop" is now default on a fresh profile.)
@ disi,
Its possible wicd is better. (I think at the time I started using networkmanager, it had more features than wicd, and if I remember correctly, the support for wpa2-enterprise wireless auth used at my university.) However, I am pretty content with networkmanager and nm-applet. nm-applet seems to have good support for vpn, but I ended up configuring manually without networkmanager.
I do feel KDE should maintain a networkmanager applet or some other applet for network connections. Given that nm-applet is fairly robust and mature, I think KDE should be able to offer something similar too.
@Alejandro, @kayosiii,
I guess I will try out Icon Tasks whenever I get time . For the problem of closed tasks not leaving the taskmanager, I believe it is present with taskmanagers other than the default one too, and as I mentioned, it is apparently an issue with kwin. I am also sticking to kde 4.6 for some time and perhaps won't even bother to look at 4.8.
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Originally posted by TheBlackCat View PostIt isn't always that simple. Workarounds often cause problems in other areas or for other people. Usually defaults are chosen that work with as many systems as possible.
/etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc
#Terminate-server = true
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Originally posted by hdas View PostFurthermore, just when I thought I somewhat understood semantic desktop, and it seemed somewhat cool, although a niche feature and not useful to me, they add something called "activities" stuff to the mix. Why do does a regular user need to know a new fancy desktop concept and paradigm every time they have a point release in 6 months, and that too a broken one at it.
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Originally posted by kraftman View PostWhat's funny nobody from Kubuntu bothered to fix this issue. They didn't even push workaround and newbies probably don't even know how to fix this. At least in 11.04, because I didn't try 11.10.
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