Compiz Now Supports KDE 4.4 SC

[V!NCENT]

Okey so KDE4 has Kwin.
Gnome 3.x or 2.30 or whatever gets clutter...

I was thinking... Why not have a 3D plugin based... state of t3h 4rtz0rs... WM?

If people would make some docky plugin and new ways to experement and leverage 3D then Compuiz could become a whole new WM/DE experience...

Not that it isn't already a WM but instead of seeing it as a replacement for old 2D WMs in DE's, why not expend Compiz and become a laboratory of 3D desktops? :P

[mugginz]

I remember stuff like "Shift+MouseWheel to fade in/out" being in KWin since ages.

I think you're thinking of Compiz, not KWin.

Try it out under KWin and let me know what you find.

My current system with KDE 4.4 SC still wont allow me to assign mouse based shortcuts to the Zoom efect for example.

[RealNC]

I remember stuff like "Shift+MouseWheel to fade in/out" being in KWin since ages.

[mugginz]

All of what you mentioned can be done with kwin too.

When did KDE add support for mouse button control of KWin effects, etc.

It certainly wasn't in there as of KDE 4.3.2.

There were hacks you could use to get around it by using background programs to remap mouse clicks, etc. into keyboard sequences but this doesn't really count as standard support.

[RealNC]

All of what you mentioned can be done with kwin too.

[mugginz]

Why use Compiz instead of Kwin?

Well, Compiz has more effects, etc. And a bit more polish as well.

But the biggest plus is the fact that you can use mouse buttons to control the way Compiz works. Say, fading a windows opacity, or when using zoom, etc.

When using KWin, and you want to zoom into the desktop you have to use keyboard shortcuts. At least you did up till 4.3.2 (Haven't tried KWin with 4.4 SC yet)

I'm surprised just how good KWin is, but I don't think it has feature parity with Compiz yet, and if the KDE 4.4 window decorator support brings KDE window tabbing into Compiz then that would be pretty awesome.

[DanL]

FYI, you can tweak the physics of wobbly windows in KDE to make it act very close if not exactly the same.

I'll look at that, thanks.

"Mutter" (german "mother" - what a ridiculous name for a WM, but whatever)

Metacity with Clutter = Mutter :P

[murraytony]

Also, Michael, should that be KDE Plasma Desktop 4.4 (instead of KDE SC 4.4)?

[murraytony]

(I use Kwin)

Kwin is less complete than Compiz/Beryl/Compix Fusion/Compiz++/Compiz again. Plugins in Compiz are much better looking. Even the Wobbly windows effect feel nicer. The Fire on close, Aquarium, 3D window in cube and Expose plugings are much better than the KDE ones, I miss them.

FYI, you can tweak the physics of wobbly windows in KDE to make it act very close if not exactly the same. You can also have the windows hover above the cube for KDE as well with Kwin 4.4.

[DanL]

Even the Wobbly windows effect feel nicer.

That was something I definitely noticed too.

Also, with open-source ATI drivers, some of the kwin effects are unsupported (is the same true for Compiz?).