More Developers Want GNOME 3.0 Delayed

[val-gaav]

Am I the only one who thinks that KDE 5.0 and Gnome 4.0 should be the same and only?

Nope you are not the only one. To all your valid points I should also add that if linux is to gain % in marketshare it should have one desktop... For normal people OS is the GUI they see not the kernel that works under the gui.

Could there be more integration between the two projects? Definitely. Is there unnecessary duplication, yes. Should both desktops switch to one toolkit... no, I don't think so.

Actually switching to one toolkit would be a great thing... since Qt can imitate the GNOME HIG and style it would be a great choice. It also has developer base and is in better shape then gtk+ development which is a bit lacking in manpower ...

All those "this is gtk+ app so it doesn't look good in kde" or "this is qt app so it sucks in gnome was a major of linux and to certain degree it still is .. It goes deeper then just theme so pointing users to use qtcurve or whatever theme that is made for both toolkits does not cut it. OK cancel vx Cancel OK ... filepickers print dialogs etc. etc.

and it goes even deeper with people who absolutely refuse to use qt aps in gnome or qt apps in kde ... Thanks to that we not only have 2 desktop environments but also numerous fragmentation in third party apps like music players, mediaplayers and so on... because you know whenever there is a good qt or gtk+ app someone has to do a clone using the other toolkit ...

Basing both kde ang gnome on the same toolkit and technology would be a blessing for linux, though yeah I know it's not going to happen.

[Kazade]

I don't read them. Devs probably don't play in such things. Kazade said it's sad that supporters of one OSS project would flame another one and I just wanted to point there are also attacks from other side.

It is sad. No matter where the attacks are coming from. The difference is, the attacks you are referring to are from unknown people. We can't do much about that. The attacks against GNOME I'm referring to are right here in this thread and so I'm pointing those out in the hope that perhaps those posters will in future make more constructive comments, rather than flaming.

[kraftman]

Why do you bother reading those?

I thought you meant blogs from people who are related to the Gnome project, not the bored kids venting on their LiveJournal sites.

I don't read them. Devs probably don't play in such things. Kazade said it's sad that supporters of one OSS project would flame another one and I just wanted to point there are also attacks from other side.

[seanhodges]

It depends what blogs and I didn't mean Gnome devs blogs or only Gnome related blogs, but in general.

Why do you bother reading those?

I thought you meant blogs from people who are related to the Gnome project, not the bored kids venting on their LiveJournal sites.

[kraftman]

A quick search on Planet Gnome begs to differ with you:

http://www.google.com/cse?cx=0075255...&cof=FORID%3A0

It depends what blogs and I didn't mean Gnome devs blogs or only Gnome related blogs, but in general.

[kraftman]

That doesn't make it right.

I know, kde fanboys aren't better, but attacks are from both sides.

[seanhodges]

Read what gnome fanboys write on blogs.

A quick search on Planet Gnome begs to differ with you:

http://www.google.com/cse?cx=007525575524326405779%3Ac0gv0y410u0&q=KDE&cof=FORID%3A0

[Kazade]

Read what gnome fanboys write on blogs.

That doesn't make it right.

[energyman]

what kraftman wrote.

[kraftman]

Which poll? GNOME is by far the most used Linux desktop... not that it matters at all. Anyway, there was a KDE news post only 2 days ago.. I'm not really sure what you are getting at.

Phoronix poll. I also saw few other polls and KDE was a winner. I remember when KDE was default DE for many distros, but it started to change when Ubuntu came. Many people who migrate from other OS'es to Linux (Ubuntu in this case) have no idea there's another DE like KDE thus they beg for missing features at Ubuntu brainstorm, but KDE already has them. Show them both, one next to another and we'll see what they choose

I frankly find it incredibly sad that supporters of one OSS project would flame and abuse another. It's hardly in the spirit of it is it?

Read what gnome fanboys write on blogs.