GIMP Releases Last Development Version For GIMP 3.0

[byteabit]

What about Krita?

I tried to replace GIMP by Krita. Krita is fantastic, has superior wacom tablet support, has non destructive features with true vector layers and other stuff, has a fantastic radial menu, and has the most important plugin available as well: GMIC. It works well as painting program and general edits can be done too. I tried to use it as a general editor, but there are all the little stuff that is different. The menus, options, features and usability differences, even for same tools, sometimes I was missing a little feature with a specific tool. I forgot the details. Maybe its a skill issue and I need to learn how to use it more often. I want to (its installed as well).

One thing that bugs me a lot is the text tool with Krita. It's garbage. They know it too and they are working on it. The text tool in GIMP is really good and whenever I need it, its invaluable. At the moment, Krita is not a replacement for GIMP for me (I am not a professional of any kind). But its installed and I am giving it another shot.

[Blademasterz]

What about Krita?

[Mavman]

Isn't it at least a little bizarre that the team delivers massive workflow changes, but almost everyone is fixating on the toolkit version?

meh... i think it's just our inside nitpicking-geek speaking...

it's at least funny that GIMP created GTK and now they're playing catch with it and can't keep up with the GTK pace
(yeah, i'm aware of the few resources and so on...)

I wonder for how long they'll be able to make the needed adjustments without becoming based on an "unsupported" toolkit version...

[ilgazcl]

GIMP is quite a large application. I'd expect this to be a multi-person multi-year effort that not many people are willing to take.


It is the GTK which caused them spend years to come up with a new major and still unliked U toolkit. Right now I am running KDE6 which moved from Qt5 to Qt6 in months. It is the most advanced Desktop ever written.


Because they don't want to spend years rewriting GIMP's UI in Qt in their spare time instead of doing actually meaningful work? I think you got some serious entitlement issues right there. Nobody owes you anything. In FOSS, you either encourage people to do something or you pay them to. In fact, that's how the entire society works. You should know that, you are part of it.

I won't get into details, but this RTFM like slogan talk wouldn't work for me. What is the default save format of GIMP? Have fun. <EOF>

[prokoudine]

So where is gimp-qt or gimp-electron?

GIMP is quite a large application. I'd expect this to be a multi-person multi-year effort that not many people are willing to take.

You know the GIMP's real problem? Arrogance.

Because they don't want to spend years rewriting GIMP's UI in Qt in their spare time instead of doing actually meaningful work? I think you got some serious entitlement issues right there. Nobody owes you anything. In FOSS, you either encourage people to do something or you pay them to. In fact, that's how the entire society works. You should know that, you are part of it.

[ilgazcl]

S

https://gegl.org/ is the image processing engine that replaced the old one.

UI and core logic have been separated for a very long time.

So where is gimp-qt or gimp-electron? Why a graphics professional deciding to test gimp gets gtk-windows interface? You know the GIMP's real problem? Arrogance.

[prokoudine]

Where can I find some in depth but accessible description of this new architecture? Like a blog post or something?

https://gegl.org/ is the image processing engine that replaced the old one.

UI and core logic have been separated for a very long time.

[DumbFsck]

And you really think it isn't?

I'm completely ignorant on the matter, so take this comment as you will. My guess is the other commenter meant how (from impressions I have as an outsider) gtk pulls a lot of business logic to it, when compared with qml/qt.

As I said, I haven't experienced either, and am just a dumbfsck and can't give examples. But remember Torvalds stating this when he was presenting his diving software.

[DumbFsck]

And with "many gimp developers" we're talking maybe a couple of dudes with other dayjobs, doing 2.10 work, GEGL and Gimp 2.99 when there's time to spare.

The new architecture is much more pleasant to work on, hopefully it can attract people. It holds a lot of promise on a technical level.

Where can I find some in depth but accessible description of this new architecture? Like a blog post or something?


Sorry for asking, but either I'm too dumb to find it or modern search engines are literal thrash.

[prokoudine]

The core and UI layer should have been separated a decade ago.

And you really think it isn't?