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    Phoronix: Xfce 4.16pre2 Is Another Step Forward For This Open-Source Desktop

    Xfce 4.16 had been aiming to release in October~November as part of their new timed release approach but that has now slipped into the December~January time-frame but today saw the availability of the second pre-release...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...-pre2-Released

  • #2
    Initial CSD support!

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    • #3
      xfce would be a perfect lightweight desktop suite if its video player could replace gstreamer dependency with a lightweight mpv. a lightweight pdf reader is also needed

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      • #4
        Without flawless Wayland support, that means nothing.
        Also, XFCE has lost all of its edge over Enlightenment.
        It's supposed to be lightweight, yet it needs so much of other infrastructure, gtk amongst other things.

        Enlightenment is much better in that regard. But, its Wayland support is sh*t, unfortunately.
        So, that leaves Sway for me.
        After some learning curve, it looks like I'm gonna stay with Sway, even if/when other players master Wayland...
        Last edited by Brane215; 20 November 2020, 11:33 AM.

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        • #5
          Every 6 months or so, I give Xfce a try... and it always fails in many aspects. Its stable and lightweight, but it truly looks and feels like a frankenstine of UI elements, unrefined and not what I'd call "production ready".

          I can't help but compare with MATE and Cinnamon, two very stable, very reliable and quite refined desktop environments.

          But, if I was given the choice between gnome3 and Xfce, then I'd pick Xfce, because gnome3's horrible Apple/Android interface is unusable.

          I hope Xfce invests some dev time to make its UI better.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bash2bash View Post
            Every 6 months or so, I give Xfce a try... and it always fails in many aspects. Its stable and lightweight, but it truly looks and feels like a frankenstine of UI elements, unrefined and not what I'd call "production ready".

            I can't help but compare with MATE and Cinnamon, two very stable, very reliable and quite refined desktop environments.

            But, if I was given the choice between gnome3 and Xfce, then I'd pick Xfce, because gnome3's horrible Apple/Android interface is unusable.

            I hope Xfce invests some dev time to make its UI better.
            You haven't provided any kind of description about what actually is wrong with XFCE according to you. Fixing "fails in many aspects" is impossible because it isn't an actual bug report with enough details for XFCE developers to follow. Post specific details and we might be able to adjust XFCE towards your preferences.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Brane215 View Post
              Without flawless Wayland support, that means nothing.
              Also, XFCE has lost all of its edge over Enlightenment.
              It's supposed to be lightweight, yet it needs so much of other infrastructure, gtk amongst other things.

              Enlightenment is much better in that regard. But, its Wayland support is sh*t, unfortunately.
              So, that leaves Sway for me.
              After some learning curve, it looks like I'm gonna stay with Sway, even if/when other players master Wayland...
              Yeah, exactly, the level of fanaticism on Phoronix has reached its peak: if something doesn't support Wayland it's just crap plain and simple. No one cares that Wayland is a hell to code for, and requires 10 times more effort and amount of code than X11. "You suck, guys! You don't support my favourite toy graphical protocol!"


              Originally posted by bash2bash View Post
              Every 6 months or so, I give Xfce a try... and it always fails in many aspects. Its stable and lightweight, but it truly looks and feels like a frankenstine of UI elements, unrefined and not what I'd call "production ready".

              I can't help but compare with MATE and Cinnamon, two very stable, very reliable and quite refined desktop environments.

              But, if I was given the choice between gnome3 and Xfce, then I'd pick Xfce, because gnome3's horrible Apple/Android interface is unusable.

              I hope Xfce invests some dev time to make its UI better.
              I don't know man. Been running it as my only DE for the past seven years. I've got nothing to really complain about.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Brane215 View Post
                Without flawless Wayland support, that means nothing.
                Just a datapoint: Wayland has 7% (80 users out of 1105 users) market share according to https://www.gamingonlinux.com/users/statistics

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by atomsymbol View Post

                  Just a datapoint: Wayland has 7% (80 users out of 1105 users) market share according to https://www.gamingonlinux.com/users/statistics
                  I guess it's too optimistic. It would be great if Michael ran a similar poll:

                  What graphical protocol are you using in your Linux distro?
                  • X.org/X11
                  • Wayland
                  • What comes by default with my distro
                  • No idea
                  • I don't use Linux
                  Unfortunately Michael has never run any polls.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by atomsymbol View Post

                    Just a datapoint: Wayland has 7% (80 users out of 1105 users) market share according to https://www.gamingonlinux.com/users/statistics
                    It may be true for now, but X is legacy piece of software, so it will change sooner than later. I heard Ubuntu is going to switch to Wayland quite soon. Just noticed the link you have provided shows Arch based distributions to be most widely used. This means it tells nothing about reality.
                    Last edited by Volta; 20 November 2020, 12:38 PM.

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