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  • #11
    Originally posted by kpedersen View Post

    It could have cured HIV and solved world hunger but if they only make a build for Windows and macOS, then it is still worthless for all I care.

    But yes, it should be open-sourced for digital preservation purposes. We can also learn a lot from how Flash ended up. For example Unity is pretty much the *same* prosumer product which means that its lifespan is also a little limited.
    That time idiots wanted everything open-sourced, it was the game of that time. Instead of asking gently for a better (it was really good) product everyone were piloted for an elimination. Even today, when some people asks for something we all should ask ourselves who are asking for that and for what reason. Many people were from the Firefox project, and now we know they are not able to compete against Chrome and Edge anymore. Blindness is a bad disease.
    Last edited by Guest; 24 April 2020, 05:50 AM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by kpedersen View Post
      For example Unity is pretty much the *same* prosumer product which means that its lifespan is also a little limited.
      Because of the Unity player plugin thing? Not likely to relevant concern moving forward with WASM. Unity already offers WASM builds to deploy afaik, drawback is runtime overhead(as in runtime size, not overhead during runtime), which I assume is going to be duplicated per deployment rather than some separate file that can utilize CDN?

      ThreeJS/BabylonJS projects aren't able to reach parity, but for non-game 3D stuff(probably fine for small games too), small interactive experiences and the like they're fine. Lot less weight and WASM parts such as basisu / ktx2 / draco decoders can leverage CDN for cache hits.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by frank007 View Post
        The flash plugin is one of the best browser plugin ever made. Furthermore, it can reproduce videos using the real (real, not fake) acceleration of the GPU. Blind idiots killed it. The 3D and the real video acceleration is a full failure with the modern technologies.
        No, flash was bad and this is great news that it is now being destroyed, almost as good as is the fact it has not been used in ages. What did you do when flash was mainstream? Watched Youtube with your windows xp? You make the least sense maybe of all postings ever in Phoronix.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by moilami View Post

          No, flash was bad and this is great news that it is now being destroyed, almost as good as is the fact it has not been used in ages. What did you do when flash was mainstream? Watched Youtube with your windows xp? You make the least sense maybe of all postings ever in Phoronix.
          Flash was bad because Adobe didn't want to open-source it. Sometimes some questions must not be asked, or have to be asked gently.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by andrei_me View Post
            Speaking of Flash, what is or what will be future support to use old software made on it? I see Flash as an old console, in the sense that we need an emulator to run it's programs, we will need something to run games made on it or something like that.

            We have (had?) great flash games on Armor Games, like Gemcraft (all of the version) or Momentum MIssile Mayhem
            Flashpoint project http://bluemaxima.org/flashpoint/ and it's opensource (it's basically a browser-like wrapper to keep running the old binary flash/java/Unity/other crap plugins needed by the old web applications, that are also binary in most cases).

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            • #16
              Originally posted by frank007 View Post
              Flash was bad because Adobe didn't want to open-source it. Sometimes some questions must not be asked, or have to be asked gently.
              Flash was bad because it was the same thing as Java plugins, and Java is bad. Even opensourcing it wouldn't make it less bad, just as "opensourced" java VMs are not less bad.

              Flash and all other bullshit of its ilk (Silverlight, Java plugins, Unity plugins, and so on) was put to death by the big parties that came together and put down HTML5 standards, that moved all the capabilities provided by the plugin in the web browser application itself.
              Last edited by starshipeleven; 24 April 2020, 06:42 AM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by frank007 View Post
                The flash plugin is one of the best browser plugin ever made.
                Still unsafe bullshit. All plugins were and were put to death for that reason.
                Furthermore, it can reproduce videos using the real (real, not fake) acceleration of the GPU. Blind idiots killed it. The 3D and the real video acceleration is a full failure with the modern technologies.
                HTML5 content is using real GPU acceleration, wtf are you talking about. If browsers on Linux suck and the only way to get some form of hardware acceleration was to use a proprietary plugin is a problem of Linux.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
                  Still unsafe bullshit. All plugins were and were put to death for that reason.
                  HTML5 content is using real GPU acceleration, wtf are you talking about. If browsers on Linux suck and the only way to get some form of hardware acceleration was to use a proprietary plugin is a problem of Linux.
                  Don't drink, think safely.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by frank007 View Post
                    Don't drink, think safely.
                    Don't safely, drink think.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by frank007 View Post
                      The flash plugin is one of the best browser plugin ever made.

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