Chrome 80 Against Firefox 74/75 Performance On Linux

[Charlie68]

Thanks, what hardware are you using (any GPU in the system, integrated in CPU and on PCIe slots)

I'm on a low-end notebook, AMD Quad Core E2-3800 processor and AMD HD Radeon 8280 graphics.

[starshipeleven]

I also have Radeon RX 5600 XT and the two videos you linked play without any problems.

Thanks, are you using an Intel processor with an iGPU or is the RX 5600 xt the only GPU in the system? Afaik the hardware acceleration is still available in Intel iGPUs even if you install an additional card.

[starshipeleven]

The graphic flaws are only in the Xorg session, use Wayland and it will work very well.
EDIT.
I tried to enable the flags recommended by Xaero_Vincent and now on my Tumbleweed it works well with Xorg too. I also checked in chrome: // gpu / and hardware acceleration is active.

Thanks, what hardware are you using (any GPU in the system, integrated in CPU and on PCIe slots)

[starshipeleven]

I'm pretty sure accelerated video decode is enabled on Chromebooks / Chrome OS by default.

ChromeOS does not use the same code path of Linux Desktop (that was not even accepted in Chromoium, btw).

Afaik in ChromeOS the "browser" interfaces with the kernel modules directly to access hardware acceleration (also on ARM-based Chromebooks for that matter), there is no VAAPI middleman protocol/libraries or anything of the sort. Having full control over the whole firmware kind of helps there.

[Bestia]

Hm, so it's a hardware/driver issue.

I'm using a AMD RX 550 on my desktop (that quite frankly does not really need hardware acceleration anyway), and it is also the same on a AMD WX 2100 (Oland I think, it's using Radeon, not AMDGPU), and on an AMD APU 2400G Pro.

Surprise surprise, I just tried them on my work laptop with an Intel CPU/graphics, and its playing fine with hw accel enabled.

Goddamnit AMD.

Tried using these options to launch chromium, no difference.

I'm using Vivaldi and that's based on Chromium and looking at vivaldi://gpu I have everything hardware accelerated or enabled, except Vulkan. This are the command line parameters:

/usr/bin/vivaldi-stable --flag-switches-begin --enable-gpu-rasterization --enable-oop-rasterization --enable-zero-copy --ignore-gpu-blacklist --enable-smooth-scrolling --flag-switches-end --disable-webrtc-apm-in-audio-service --save-page-as-mhtml

I also have Radeon RX 5600 XT and the two videos you linked play without any problems.

[ObiWan]

The only race that matters for me at the moment is when my browser is feature complete on Wayland and Firefox works quite good now (except for copy&paste and scaling probably due to Gtk issues).

KDE user? Then it's a KDE bug:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1567762

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411682

[tildearrow]

Windows XP was utter crap. It didn't support a thing out of the box, it was BSOD hell for long time and it was probably the most vulnerable OS in existence. Oh and 3GB RAM support. Thanks

In my opinion Windows 7 was the best version of Windows.
It was so much less vulnerable than XP and still fairly compatible.


...wait what is the thread about? Is it about Firefox or Phorodows?

[Charlie68]

Eh, I've been using it for a while on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed (where the chromium is patched to be able to use HW accel) and it's like 25% of the videos and many livestreams are psychedelic colors and light shows.

Wish you better luck than me.

The graphic flaws are only in the Xorg session, use Wayland and it will work very well.
EDIT.
I tried to enable the flags recommended by Xaero_Vincent and now on my Tumbleweed it works well with Xorg too. I also checked in chrome: // gpu / and hardware acceleration is active.

[starshipeleven]

There is not such thing as telemetry is needed.

Yes, it tells how the software is used and what parts have issues or could be sped up better. It's not as simple as telling them what sites you visit and where you click (which is not terribly useful)

Spyware cannot be needed.

Telemetry is not spyware.

If they need feedback from the users, they need just to ask and listen.

Users can't provide technical information as they just click and use the application. Whatever they say is very generic. It's OK for bugs, but not for optimizations.

Look at video acceleration,

On Windows and Android it works fine. Linux desktop is very close to irrelevant and they dedicate an adequate amount of resources to it (not much)

Just make sure that the browser can decode as efficiently as it can

They are not doing the decoding, even with software decoding they are using libraries to do that.

need tot invest most of their resources into things that no one uses or very few of use can afford such thing (VR).

VR is (or was) seen as the future. To have something ready in the future they need to start investing now, you can't begin working on something years after it became popular or you end up like Windows Phone, that started developing years after Android had already taken over the mobile market.

Do they need spyware to find that Linux users want also proper Wayland support ?

Do you need me to repeat multiple fucking times that they don't care as much about people on Linux as they care about people on Windows and Android?

constant nagging about the sync feature that is everywhere now.

At this point I'm not even sure if this are all the places where I've seen it and being annoyed about this aggresive marketing ala Microsoft just to get my data.

It's encrypted and they don't have the key to decrypt it (and this is kind of obvious to know because the browser is opensource), they are just storing an encrypted archive.

They also offer the software and documentation to roll your own sync server on your own infrastructure. For example there are Docker containers for that.

And how Linux (free and open source software) is not a priority

Because most people using this browser are not on Linux. Mozilla isn't making an OS, they are making a cross-platform application.

[starshipeleven]

Thanks! These videos are playing fine with VAAPI GPU video decoding on my end. No color distortion or artifacts.

What graphics card are you using? I'm using the NVIDIA proprietary drivers.

Hm, so it's a hardware/driver issue.

I'm using a AMD RX 550 on my desktop (that quite frankly does not really need hardware acceleration anyway), and it is also the same on a AMD WX 2100 (Oland I think, it's using Radeon, not AMDGPU), and on an AMD APU 2400G Pro.

Surprise surprise, I just tried them on my work laptop with an Intel CPU/graphics, and its playing fine with hw accel enabled.

Goddamnit AMD.

I also have these chromium-vaapi v80 options enabled:

--ignore-gpu-blacklist --enable-gpu-rasterization --enable-native-gpu-memory-buffers --enable-zero-copy

Tried using these options to launch chromium, no difference.