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  • #11
    Originally posted by caligula View Post

    Any idea why it is so? Is the code base a mess or just few developers and too little time?
    From what I've gathered, It's the developers and time part.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
      From what I've gathered, It's the developers and time part.
      FWIW Mate has very few developers as well, but it seems at least one of them knows how to be a release manager.

      The too few developers issue seems to affect all DEs except Gnome and KDE.
      Last edited by calc; 03-19-2019, 10:07 AM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by msotirov View Post
        They don't seem to be using any CMS, so I'm not surprised. It's probably some archaic system where you have to submit some patches to some SVN which sends out an email which gets sent via FAX to some mechanical typewriter which produces some punch cards which get run on some mainframe in some university basement.
        Those punch card queu's can take days to clear out sometimes.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by calc View Post
          As long as you don't mind using a DE that hasn't even had a bugfix update in over 4 years.
          Yes, better use a bug-ridden crap that gets a massive amount of bug fixes every week, which means at any given week you're using something infested with bugs.

          Something to be proud of, for sure.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Weasel View Post
            Yes, better use a bug-ridden crap that gets a massive amount of bug fixes every week, which means at any given week you're using something infested with bugs.

            Something to be proud of, for sure.
            Definitely no long standing bugs in XFCE that haven't been fixed since no updates have come out in over 4 years....

            Oh wait, there are lots.

            XFCE hasn't had an update due to lack of release management, not due to lack of bugs needing to be fixed.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by calc View Post

              As long as you don't mind using a DE that hasn't even had a bugfix update in over 4 years.
              Xfce 4.13 is available and fixes many of 4.12 bugs.
              https://packages.debian.org/experimental/xfce/

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              • #17
                Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
                Xfce 4.13 is available and fixes many of 4.12 bugs.
                https://packages.debian.org/experimental/xfce/
                So use an alpha release since they can't plan properly for stable updates? There's a reason that 4.13 is in experimental.

                I guess if you don't care about stability, but then why not just use Gnome then. 🤔🤣

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by calc View Post
                  The too few developers issue seems to affect all DEs except Gnome and KDE.
                  And except Deepin and Enlightenment (yes, I know E is technically a WM, but in practice, it's basically a DE).

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Weasel View Post
                    Yes, better use a bug-ridden crap that gets a massive amount of bug fixes every week, which means at any given week you're using something infested with bugs.

                    Something to be proud of, for sure.
                    Yes, we're all proud of Xfce being the perfect, bug-free DE...

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by debianxfce View Post

                      Xfce 4.13 is available and fixes many of 4.12 bugs.
                      https://packages.debian.org/experimental/xfce/
                      Funny that you even acknowledge that Xfce 4.12 has bugs. I though you'd reply with something like "what bugs? there are no bugs".

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