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Last edited by duby229; 06 March 2018, 10:37 AM.
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Originally posted by duby229 View Post
So then it has no purpose. That's just fine. But it is what it is....
Unenforceable laws are exactly the same as no law at all. In fact it's worse because an unenforceable law can't regulate activity.
EDIT: And yes, if everyone stated burning their homes, there would be nothing any law enforcement agency could do about it. But how it is that you equate entertainment with burning your own home is pretty telling about you. Why do you think it is that most people stream multimedia, but almost nobody burns down their home? It's because streaming multimedia is the thing that makes logical sense and burning down your own home doesn't. Now why is it that you equated those two thing together?
Also no because Kodi doesn't meet your warped requirements, does not mean it has no purpose. The purpose of Kodi is to allow you to organise and playback content you have already obtained, it does that purpose met.
All that being said, I'm tired of this uninformed tripe - so I'll simply say this, if you're so sure it's you that defines the law, that free software developers owe you entertainment on demand - why don't you sail out to international waters, with a satellite equipped laptop running popcorn time and STAY THERE.
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Originally posted by polarathene View Post
This discussion is giving me bad memories. Please don't tell me your the reddit user curiousone6151: https://www.reddit.com/user/curiousone6151
Nooo, can't be. You're not that dense surely. You still seem to share a bit in common :\
If you don't think the law is enforceable, why not let your authorities know about all the pirated content you're streaming and encouraging others to do, get really vocal about it in your local community, make it well known that your a firm believer that it's ok to do so and show others how to do so(maybe host an after school or lunch class at the local highschool or some regular meetup group?). See how well that goes, see how much that law doesn't regulate it.
It's not that it's unenforceable or not that they can't regulate it, it's just due to technology it would be a huge waste of resources to enforce on a wide scale. While also a total dick move if they went ahead with it requiring people that aren't doing anything illegal to be subject to the invasive approach required, just like DRM doesn't affect those illegally watching the content, it affects those legally watching it :\ To properly enforce it would be ridiculous though, it's only going to happen when you make yourself an easy target. You're not that stupid though right, so you won't actually take up that challenge, if you do, for extra brownie points, sell or charge a fee instead, make a little business of it, or get a nice big projector screen and many chairs and do some charity screenings of popular movies.
Besides, it already happened well over a decade ago! Where have you been? You don't need public displays, besides that -would- be illegal and enforceable. What people are doing is streaming for their own entertainment in their own homes. Most people already learned years ago. What, you don't remember napster? You don't remember flash player? You don't remember bittorrent? Is it that you don't know about all of the technologies that lead up to this? Most people do remember and are still using those services.
EDIT: What, did you think all the content people have on their HDD's was purchased? Uhm hell no! Basically all of what Kodi plays locally was downloaded. And that's whether you like it or not. It's happening whether you approve of it or not. And there is nothing you can do to stop it. What Kodi lacks right now and lacked during the entirety of its existence is a purpose.Last edited by duby229; 06 March 2018, 10:51 AM.
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostYou don't need public displays, besides that -would- be illegal and enforceable.
Originally posted by duby229 View PostEDIT: What, did you think all the content people have on their HDD's was purchased? Uhm hell no! Basically all of what Kodi plays locally was downloaded.
I'm not disputing that you're wrong about how people generally source such content, it's incredibly common. It's just not legal in the first place, and that is not the purpose of Kodi to provide content. As I said, if no one pays for the content at all and all took the piracy approach, do you actually think quality content would continue to be produced? It'd go downhill. It's thanks to the internet that content becomes so much more widely available, not only for piracy but for monetization legally as well. Prior to streaming and digital download there was a much higher barrier of entry.
If you cut out any compensation for the content producers efforts, I don't see how you expect them to continue to create it. You need people to consume the content legally in a paid manner to support your leeching of content unpaid. The content creators surely aren't in it to live off of exposure coin.
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostLet's face the facts here
Originally posted by duby229 View PostI do believe artists deserve to get paid for creating their works, for sure. But I also believe art was meant to be distributed freely. That's why I support open source and why I think a copyleft is so important.
Who knows maybe one day, you'll be able to work around that with enough patreon or kickstarter funding, but that's kind of like paying for something in advance without any assurance if it's going to be good or even finished. The benefits of the content being open are less interesting when it comes to film and tv shows as a viewer, I can't say that it'd matter that much to most if the film was open/copyleft or not.
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Originally posted by polarathene View Post
Ok great that you agree on that. Now take the next step from that to Kodi effectively being the same if it worked the way you wanted by being an enabler and source/distributor of said content. Do you think it'd be legal and that developers could continue to work on it and supply it to users without being targeted? Does it benefit the project in any real way to get that sorta of attention and reputation? Is that a good play for them? Is there risk in doing such and is that worth taking?
Plenty of people do pay for content still. I'm a Netflix user these days, there is an addon for that to use Netflix with Kodi. My father has bought a large amount of optical media(and VHS before it), all that can be ripped to digital copies for personal backup/use. So no it doesn't apply to all.
I'm not disputing that you're wrong about how people generally source such content, it's incredibly common. It's just not legal in the first place, and that is not the purpose of Kodi to provide content. As I said, if no one pays for the content at all and all took the piracy approach, do you actually think quality content would continue to be produced? It'd go downhill. It's thanks to the internet that content becomes so much more widely available, not only for piracy but for monetization legally as well. Prior to streaming and digital download there was a much higher barrier of entry.
If you cut out any compensation for the content producers efforts, I don't see how you expect them to continue to create it. You need people to consume the content legally in a paid manner to support your leeching of content unpaid. The content creators surely aren't in it to live off of exposure coin.Last edited by duby229; 06 March 2018, 01:27 PM.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostA function left enabled is a far cry from sending all your hard drive over to google.
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