KDE Plasma 5.13 Should Be Starting Up Even Faster

[grok]

After the first boot I was speechless! Just 400 mb of RAM? And not only this, but the animations run so smoothly that you get the impression that you have an i5 or something! WOW! Seriously, in matters of desktop performance, KDE runs circles around Gnome shell!

It's like you have some fast CPU or something.
Remember when dual CPU and 1GB RAM was a crazy machine for video editing, raytracing and 3D work? lol

[cfeck]

Minor correction: Nathaniel's blog summaries the work of various developers, not "his work" in particular. To be more specific, the Plasma boot speedup was a change proposed by Kai Uwe.

[Indomitable]

Because of speed. It's a disease of our time that we have faster computers, but systems are not, because programs are slower due to slower scripting languages.

I was thinking that actually more programs should go from C++ to QML with JavaScript. On current hardware QML apps should as fast as C++, but bringing better stability.

[UpsetingFact]

Just no.
That will just bring either bad coders (only a few web developers are good), or either design whingers that'll sacrifice usability for looks through ultra "minimalism", while still using a shit ton of resources. (seriously, just go MacOS if you want such shit).

Just let JavaScript for what it was intended to be: Web only.
Anyway, JavaScript is the new Flash, or even worse. A lot of pages are taking at least 100MB of RAM for nothing.
Because web "developers" be like "unused RAM is wasted RAM" without knowing what reclaimable RAM is, while "coding" on their 16GB Mac and not caring about 16/9 screen formats.

If you a want multi-platform language without hassling with portability, just make a decent one or make/find a decent C++ abstraction for that.
Other than that, you may look at Rust is you want the same thing as C++, but with more memory safeties.

C++ is stable, it's just that people don't want to care about memory management and pointers/references because they are too lazy (quick & dirty "coding") to make things properly, thus making shit.
It's not something you can fool around like Java and JavaScript

[kokoko3k]

Is it just me, or plasma 5.12 starts in the exact same time of the previous release?
(Xorg)

[TheBlackCat]

Just no.
That will just bring either bad coders (only a few web developers are good), or either design whingers that'll sacrifice usability for looks through ultra "minimalism", while still using a shit ton of resources. (seriously, just go MacOS if you want such shit).

Just let JavaScript for what it was intended to be: Web only.
Anyway, JavaScript is the new Flash, or even worse. A lot of pages are taking at least 100MB of RAM for nothing.
Because web "developers" be like "unused RAM is wasted RAM" without knowing what reclaimable RAM is, while "coding" on their 16GB Mac and not caring about 16/9 screen formats.

If you a want multi-platform language without hassling with portability, just make a decent one or make/find a decent C++ abstraction for that.
Other than that, you may look at Rust is you want the same thing as C++, but with more memory safeties.

C++ is stable, it's just that people don't want to care about memory management and pointers/references because they are too lazy (quick & dirty "coding") to make things properly, thus making shit.
It's not something you can fool around like Java and JavaScript

The javascript is just to describe the layout of the GUI. It is used for little, if any, "business logic". That is pretty much all C++ still.

[smitty3268]

Just no.
That will just bring either bad coders (only a few web developers are good), or either design whingers that'll sacrifice usability for looks through ultra "minimalism", while still using a shit ton of resources. (seriously, just go MacOS if you want such shit).

Just let JavaScript for what it was intended to be: Web only.

You say that as if desktop UI design is any different than website UI design. It's not. The same developers can do it, the same skill sets apply, and the same tools are perfectly capable of handling it.

Because web "developers" be like "unused RAM is wasted RAM" without knowing what reclaimable RAM is, while "coding" on their 16GB Mac and not caring about 16/9 screen formats.

Heh. Most RAM resources on the web are controlled by the browser. Yes, you can do some stupid stuff, but most of the time that memory hog is the browser automatically caching stuff so it renders faster. And guess what the browser is written in - including the javascript engine, the image parsing, etc... Yep, c++.

[Slartifartblast]

Because of speed. It's a disease of our time that we have faster computers, but systems are not, because programs are slower due to slower scripting languages.

Parkinson's Law

[GreatEmerald]

Hmm, that makes me wonder, does the Wayland session get rid of startkde? Just that should give a pretty nice performance boost. But then systemd-based startup scripts have not been improved for a while, so I take it the Wayland startup still does something similar to startkde...

[Mario Junior]

I want to use Plasma definitely, but Kwin is a mess with Nvidia graphics.

>install dmw
>everything is smooth
>firefox scroll is smooth as hell
>install plasma
>firefox scroll becomes a crap
>drop frames on kwin
>on a fu***** GTX 1080

Yes, i use "ForceFullCompositionPipeline=On" on xorg.conf and vsync=off on compositor settings.