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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostHm, btw, the title of the article is an obvious clickbait.
A more realistic article would have been:
"DragonFlyBSD Developers Lack the Manpower To Port Linux Stuff Properly So They Decide To Drop PulseAudio"
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Originally posted by septianix View PostTo be fair, they have done a great job when it came to porting Linux stuff where it matters. (e.g. kms graphics drivers). However there is little point in maintaining a port primarily needed to overcome a Linux design flaw. PA make senses in a Linux environment, not in BSD. You can like it or hate it in Linux. In BSD it's mostly irrelevant.
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Back in the mid 2000s I had a USB soundcard for my speakers and ALSA was a huge pain. The documentation was lacking, the configurations obtuse, and constant problems of not being able to get sound from more than 1 program at a time. KDE Phonon looked really promising, but PulseAudio stole the show. At first I hated it, because my PCI soundcard wouldn't work, but they eventually fixed the bug and now I have no complaints -- sound "just works." (at least, well enough for typical desktop stuff)
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Originally posted by microcode View PostEven basic multi-client/mixing is missing from about half of audio chipsets (and thus not exposed through ALSA); so good luck hearing a system sound while your youtube video is playing.
Though I figure it wouldn't be a terrible idea to just add software mixing to ALSA, it might be the right place to have it for a variety of reasons.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostYeah, a server does not need a modern sound system.
Pulseaudio is not a modern sound system, it's band aid for a badly designed audio driver.
The fact is with the stock FreeBSD kernel, you can get multi-channel audio with per application and/or global volume control. No audio sound server needed. Only Linux needs PA to achieve the same result (with inevitably more latency). Because without PA, Linux sound is pretty much broken. and even with PA, it's still broken for some people. In FreeBSD, once properly configured, sound just works.
And btw, this is one of the reasons that led me to choose FreeBSD over Linux many years ago. I never regretted it.
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Originally posted by septianix View PostSo that means you're either ignorant or just bad faith.
Pulseaudio is not a modern sound system, it's band aid for a badly designed audio driver.
The fact is with the stock FreeBSD kernel,
Phoronix: DragonFlyBSD Decides To Drop PulseAudio DragonFlyBSD developers have decided to remove PulseAudio from their dports packaging system and patch their
because that's what PA really brings to the table, and the reason why it is called "modern sound system", and not "ALSA bandaid"
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostHm, btw, the title of the article is an obvious clickbait.
A more realistic article would have been:
"DragonFlyBSD Developers Lack the Manpower To Port Linux Stuff Properly So They Decide To Drop PulseAudio"
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Originally posted by fhuberts View PostArgh, my arm itches and hurts.
Let's cut it off...
Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostAlso called the "don't fucking blow away my ears when I connect the headphones, thanks" feature. Yeah, this is crucial for anyone living in 21th century.
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