Ubuntu With Linux 3.16 Smashes OS X 10.9.4 On The MacBook Air

[jimbohale]

Whether or not something looks good is pretty subjective. I along with probably most of everyone prefer how OS X looks. They pay people a lot of money to create a consistent UI that looks good to the general population and it appears to succeed, so yeah. Linux can learn a lot from OS X considering OS X has done the research.

I realize you meant something else nvm about that part

[jimbohale]

The reason I call it "Linux" is because "GNU" is ugly as hell. And also, people wouldn't know what I'm talking about if I said "GNU".

OS X doesn't look better either. Porn comes to mind.

Whether or not something looks good is pretty subjective. I along with probably most of everyone prefer how OS X looks. They pay people a lot of money to create a consistent UI that looks good to the general population and it appears to succeed, so yeah. Linux can learn a lot from OS X considering OS X has done the research.

As I've stated before, using OS X for me is a lot easier than using Linux. I've used Linux for a long time, I know how to use it extremely well, but it requires effort to maintain and fuck that. I have much better things to do. I would GLADLY pay someone to do it for me, and I do. Got a high-end mouse? Good luck using that on Linux. It's impossible to configure the mouse speeds decently. The only decent configuration utility is Razercfg (I have a razer mouse because it's really nice) and it doesn't even save the configuration nor load it properly when you configure it. I don't feel like fixing it myself and there isn't an easy way to pay someone to fix it for me. Window tearing is a massive issue and while some people don't care, I do. There is a massive amount of fragmentation in all of the window toolkits, everything looks different and quite frankly like ass. GTK is good, Qt is good. They should not be intermixed because they look TERRIBLE when used with each other (i.e. some applications use Qt that are really popular while others use GTK and you're expected to use them both at once). The only exception to that rule has been VLC, it looks good while using GTK. The Linux desktop is not very usable for me and when there are bugs freely introduced into the code by novice programmers that does not appeal to me. I want something that works, just works, and never stops working. I don't care if it can load a file at 100MB/s vs Linux's 150MB/s. I don't care. On OS X I can load everything with the expectation of functionality and I receive it every time.

You're the ignorant here, mister.

Says the guy who made a subjective statement appear objective.

Calling it GNU/Linux is completely correct. Userland is full GNU, including the vastly used Linux API implementation: glibc. Graphics interface is an add-on that doesn't count and is outside the main user land.
KDE is called KDE SC, KDE Software Compilation which uses KDE Framework and Plasma Workspaces in a similar manner GNU uses Linux.

Userland is NOT full GNU. glibc is a VERY small library compared to the rest of the userland that may or may not be GPL'd and certainly not written by GNU. Obviously Linux wouldn't have succeeded without GNU but we call it Linux not because it's correct but because it's easy. If we wanted to be correct we'd call it Fedora GNU/Linux or Arch GNU/Linux and fuck calling it that every time. We call it OS X or Mac instead of Mac OS X, we call it Windows instead of Microsoft Windows. Yes there are times when it's references by it's full name but who cares when it's not.

The rest, I'm OK with that and you could call people from the US as "americans" because they're in America so americans is their generic type but programs for native Android are not valid for GNU nor BusyBox.

BusyBox is such a massive piece of irrelevant software for desktops I cannot even fathom why you brought it up.

System branding. People don't normally say "Linux" in that context you are taking about, instead they say "Ubuntu" or "Red Hat".

But in fact those are GNU/Linux systems. Their generic type is GNU which abstracts Linux.
Today I think I'll download Debian GNU/Linux.

I'm not anal about it. If I download something, I say hey I'm going to install Ubuntu on this server or whatever, and people will know that I mean Ubuntu Server GNU/Linux.

It's not even that IMO. Especially regarding the horrifyingly ugly traffic lights window buttons and the cold fake metal theme. It's just got some nicer animations.

Have you even looked at the latest OS X? No, no you haven't. You don't have to like it but don't spread bullshit.

[rikkinho]

ye

Always, in every benchmark (encoding, gaming, networking), OSX is and was slower than both Linux and Windows even in it's own tuned hardware. I don't even dare to think the results if OSX was allowed to run in generic pcs not optimized for it.
Here Michael says clearly "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS x86_64 was then dual-booted to the same Apple MacBook Air.". Wonder who's trolling....

it not run att all in generic pcs at least with amd cpu, this the main reason for osx only run with their macs

[Apopas]

cares linux trolls. But anyway, results are proportional to the hardware : osx - cpu - core i5 @ 1,3 ghz @ 2 cores, ubuntu 14.04 - core i5 @ 1,3 ghz @ 4 cores, ubuntu 14.04 + dev mesa & kernel - core i5 @ 2,6 ghz @ 4 cores.

Always, in every benchmark (encoding, gaming, networking), OSX is and was slower than both Linux and Windows even in it's own tuned hardware. I don't even dare to think the results if OSX was allowed to run in generic pcs not optimized for it.
Here Michael says clearly "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS x86_64 was then dual-booted to the same Apple MacBook Air.". Wonder who's trolling....

[newwen]

It's not even that IMO. Especially regarding the horrifyingly ugly traffic lights window buttons and the cold fake metal theme. It's just got some nicer animations.

Nice animations, that's all. The one I like the most is the oppening of an application window from its icon or document icon. Everything else is quite ugly and less usable than Windows.

[xeekei]

OS X doesn't look better either. Porn comes to mind.

I'm sorry, but I have never thought of porn when speaking about OS X. Never! Sure, it does sound like "oh sex" if you say it fast, but even then, sex =/= porn.

[Apopas]

It's great when someone tries so hard to be anything but ignorant, and then ends up being totally ignorant.

Unfortunately, this is not a point at all.

[Apopas]

OS X is pretty, that's all.

Totally subjective. I don't like it at all.

[Luke_Wolf]

Well, I guess Michael messed up the Specs table then.

Well the difference basically is between how P-States exposes frequency information to user space and how other governors expose frequency information. AFAIR with P-States it exposes the turbo speed, whereas with other governors it exposes the normal upper operating frequency. (Note that that doesn't mean that other governors don't turbo)

[Drago]

No, It's the same exact hardware, a Macbook Air.

Well, I guess Michael messed up the Specs table then.