Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Test Driving GNU Hurd, With Benchmarks Against Linux

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • phoronix
    started a topic Test Driving GNU Hurd, With Benchmarks Against Linux

    Test Driving GNU Hurd, With Benchmarks Against Linux

    Phoronix: Test Driving GNU Hurd, With Benchmarks Against Linux

    Last week there was a GNU Hurd status update, which generated a fair amount of attention as it stated there are plans for a Debian GNU/Hurd release in conjunction with Debian "Wheezy" when it's out in late 2012 or early 2013. After being in development for more than 20 years, the Hurd is finally taking some shape. The Debian GNU/Hurd installer for Wheezy is even now working, which I tried out and ended up porting the Phoronix Test Suite to GNU Hurd. In this article is a brief look at Debian GNU/Hurd along with the first-ever benchmarks of Debian GNU/Hurd against Debian GNU/Linux.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=16237

  • JanC
    replied
    I didn't mean to say tests inside a VM are completely useless, but they are meaningless without knowing what is being tested. Doing the same tests on the same machine on bare hardware might help, provided the machine is booted with only one core/thread active. And of course, as somebody already mentioned, more different tests would be useful too.

    Leave a comment:


  • vermaden
    replied
    Benchmarking OSes under virtual machines reminds me this
    http://www.robertgering.de/wp-conten...sInception.jpg

    Leave a comment:


  • Adarion
    replied
    Originally posted by frantaylor View Post
    Realistically, BSD was just emerging from its legal difficulties at the time, and would have been the "canonical free OS" if Linux had not come along. So we already have TWO free OS with broad hardware support thanks to Linus and Bill Joy.
    Well yes, but BSD has in my eyes this one way license problem. Linux is GPL/LGPL and this is free and stays free. I guess that also attracts more developers to it than to a BSD licensed project. Some see it as freedom to have the ability to even close / relicense the code under a different license but I don't.


    PS on the article from Michael: It's indeed sad that the tests were carried out in a VM, that seems not too really realistic to me. At least I expect all sorts of falsifying effects from the VM/host machine. But with this hardware support projects like HURD, Plan0/Inferno might stay an experimental research project for geeks. But maybe some of the interesting info won there could be used in the more mainstream products.

    Leave a comment:


  • yogi_berra
    replied
    Originally posted by energyman View Post
    and how much are these benchmarks worth - running in a vm?

    how much are these benchmarks worth - when one of them can't even do SMP?
    What, not dropping everything to switch to the hurd based on a phoronix article?

    Leave a comment:


  • energyman
    replied
    and how much are these benchmarks worth - running in a vm?

    how much are these benchmarks worth - when one of them can't even do SMP?

    Leave a comment:


  • Delgarde
    replied
    Originally posted by frostwyrm333 View Post
    I don't know about the deep things but I'm surprised that Hurd is actually comparable to linux.
    Not that surprising. The handful of tests Hurd could actually run seem to be the kind that just max out the CPU - so as long as the kernel doesn't impose too much overhead, I'd expect similar performance from any OS.

    Leave a comment:


  • JanC
    replied
    I wonder how reliable tests run inside a VM are, e.g. some of those tests might well be testing the speed of I/O emulation in Qemu instead of the speed of the kernel running on it...?

    Leave a comment:


  • frantaylor
    replied
    Originally posted by Adarion View Post
    I'm glad Linus chose monolithic approach so we already have a free OS with a broad hardware support today.
    Realistically, BSD was just emerging from its legal difficulties at the time, and would have been the "canonical free OS" if Linux had not come along. So we already have TWO free OS with broad hardware support thanks to Linus and Bill Joy.

    Leave a comment:


  • Adarion
    replied
    Thanks for the insight into a recent Hurd software compilation. Was an interesting read for me.

    Still it lacks devs and microkernels are a fine thing in theory but need lots of work in reality.
    I'm glad Linus chose monolithic approach so we already have a free OS with a broad hardware support today.

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X