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Originally posted by darkoverlordofdata View PostI have to keep a Linux machine around, because the linux emulation layer is a sad joke.
Originally posted by darkoverlordofdata View PostWindows subsystem for Linux runs linux programs far better than FreeBSD can
Originally posted by darkoverlordofdata View PostI have serious doubts that Unix will survive the next decade.
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Originally posted by waxhead View PostTo my own surprise I find the idea of a web-based installer not that bad... what I fear is the "modern user interface" thing. If the installer requires the latest version of framework X and depends on browser Y with Z enabled it is a really, really BAD idea. If this thing however can try to be as simple as possible - e.g. pure html with a couple of necessary tricks here and there it may actually be a good idea.
Personally I have always preferred text based installers. Simple and clean without any fuzz!Last edited by kneekoo; 24 July 2021, 01:21 PM.
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I really like FreeBSD. Probably because I started my career on Unix back in the 1980's. But I have to keep a Linux machine around, because the linux emulation layer is a sad joke. Windows subsystem for Linux runs linux programs far better than FreeBSD can. This leaves the ecosystem decimated, with more and more ports breaking almost daily. i really hope they fix it and get appimage working. If not, I have serious doubts that Unix will survive the next decade.
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I have been playing more with FreeBSD lately (admittedly not a lot yet) because I can see it's value as a ZFS based file server, even more so now that the combined Linux + FreeBSD OpenZFS has merged as a common codebase, and that is now default in FreeBSD 13. I took a look at the link above and the screenshot does look simple (in a good way.) For a server I wouldn't want to install all the dependencies to do this locally on that machine, but if the installer gave me an IP address early on and I could remotely accesses that from another machine, might be nice. That said, I would hope they keep the text installer as well, both options fronting the same "back end" installation process.
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There is "rough proof-of-concept" work on a new FreeBSD installer. The goal is to ultimately succeed the current bsdinstall. This new experimental installer is web-based with the interface running from a web browser either locally on the machine seeing the FreeBSD installation or can be opened up on a remote system.
The fact that Xorg (and a web browser) are not in base would make local installations infeasible.
Didn't Solaris 8 have a "web start" (https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19455-01...j/index.html)?
Amazing how things go in circles with a complete lack of true innovation and then calling it "modern" againLast edited by kpedersen; 24 July 2021, 09:56 AM.
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Originally posted by waxhead View PostTo my own surprise I find the idea of a web-based installer not that bad... what I fear is the "modern user interface" thing. If the installer requires the latest version of framework X and depends on browser Y with Z enabled it is a really, really BAD idea. If this thing however can try to be as simple as possible - e.g. pure html with a couple of necessary tricks here and there it may actually be a good idea.
Personally I have always preferred text based installers. Simple and clean without any fuzz!
I both laugh and cringe anytime I read the word "modern" in regards to computing. It'll only be "modern" for the first year or so until someone else comes out with the next "modern" design or idea and your "modern" becomes "legacy thing #45328".
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To my own surprise I find the idea of a web-based installer not that bad... what I fear is the "modern user interface" thing. If the installer requires the latest version of framework X and depends on browser Y with Z enabled it is a really, really BAD idea. If this thing however can try to be as simple as possible - e.g. pure html with a couple of necessary tricks here and there it may actually be a good idea.
Personally I have always preferred text based installers. Simple and clean without any fuzz!
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FreeBSD Working On A New Installer, Updates To Their Linux Compatibility Layer
Phoronix: FreeBSD Working On A New Installer, Updates To Their Linux Compatibility Layer
The FreeBSD project just published their Q2-2021 report concerning all of their different development activities from April through June...
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