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Originally posted by kpedersen View Post
FreeBSD already supports more laptops than macOS. Buying a bunch of laptops and giving them to developers is nothing really that new, many mailing lists are full of "this doesn't work, send it to me and I will fix it". I say keep going
With that logic... why Linux? why not let Windows do that?
As for windows.. come on now. We don't want to be that cruel to users..
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Originally posted by Volta View Post
Maybe because Linux is Open Source just like BSD? However, if you mean BSD supports proprietary software then we really should put it in the same box as Windows.
That being said there is plenty of commercial software for Linux and FreeBSD both. There is also commercial drivers for both (nvidia comes to mind), and in FreeBSD's case hybrid commercial forks. (Juniper / NetApp / MacOS) All of that is OK. Nobody really uses windows for anything other than a desktop anyhow.
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I had to buy a five-year-old HP desktop machine in order for FreeBSD to work well. That's not ideal. If the FreeBSD foundation wants to buy my 2018 Mac mini, (totally serious) then they'll be able to work on support for that, too.
FreeBSD on the desktop seems to be well-suited for BSDs enthusiasts like me, though not a super first choice for others that would be better served by systemd/Linux, Windows, macOS, etc.
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Originally posted by willbprog177 View PostIf the FreeBSD foundation wants to buy my 2018 Mac mini, (totally serious) then they'll be able to work on support for that, too.
Originally posted by willbprog177 View PostFreeBSD on the desktop seems to be well-suited for BSDs enthusiasts like me, though not a super first choice for others that would be better served by systemd/Linux, Windows, macOS, etc.
I am quite a fan of older hardware, and a fan of FreeBSD, so this actually suits me quite well
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Originally posted by kpedersen View PostYou might want to consider stock piling your 2018 mac for later.
A little OT, but I want to get rid of the mini because I don't relish the fact that a nearly $2,000 USD computer is sitting idle. I'm aware of the array of things it can do, but I no longer have any use for it. It can't run FreeBSD 12.1 or Linux properly and I have another (older, cheaper, slower) mini I can do Mac-specific stuff on. This 2018 mini has outstayed its welcome and has to go. I need to recover the money I spent on it so I can do something more meaningful with it.
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I think this is good news for FreeBSD. I hope they support more laptops. For years the advice I have been hearing is if you want a BSD for a laptop buy a used thinkpad and put OpenBSD on it because it is the best supported BSD on laptops. Also agree with the user who mentioned the Pinebook, would be great to see OpenBSD or FreeBSD working on it.
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Originally posted by kpedersen View PostYou might want to consider stock piling your 2018 mac for later. Basically the annoying fact is that it takes so much time for a BSD operating system to start supporting a bit of hardware really well, that it is generally quite difficult to actually get hold of that hardware as it is old and was discontinued.
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