FreeBSD Is Looking For Your Feedback To Guide Its Priorities

[skeevy420]

I liked your comment and I agree. Maybe there are different reasons to ask the community: the first (Manjaro-like) is when you have a big user base and you want to do what your users expect you to do, so you ask them. The other (FreeBSD-like) is when you already are irrelevant and asking what to do next may draw some fresh attention to your project...

With how *BSD seems to be gaining in popularity as of late...or maybe stealing some Linux thunder...it just makes sense to ask all the new and existing users to chime in. I've been following GhostBSD recently and how FreeBSD performs & what they do directly effects Ghost.

Not to mention that Netflix runs FreeBSD, PS3/4/Vita are FreeBSD based...It might not be very desktop relevant, but it is very relevant in regards to a lot of the backends for things most of us use almost daily.

[lucrus]

Manjaro asks questions, listens to their community, and that is precisely why they're not irrelevant.

I liked your comment and I agree. Maybe there are different reasons to ask the community: the first (Manjaro-like) is when you have a big user base and you want to do what your users expect you to do, so you ask them. The other (FreeBSD-like) is when you already are irrelevant and asking what to do next may draw some fresh attention to your project...

[skeevy420]

Beware it's only my humble opinion, but I think it's the other way around: it's being irrelevant that makes you ask what to do next.

I get that, I really do. Just the same though, when you've been hyper-focused on a task and getting stuff done, it can be a good thing to take a step back to get other opinions and a fresh, new perspective on things.

Manjaro does polls and asks questions like this from time to time and it's one of the reasons I think they're a great desktop and why they're now known as one of the best distributions for gaming on Linux. Community says, "All this CIK/SI crap is annoying with AMDGPU and my old ass GPU" so Manjaro made switching to AMDGPU with SI/CIK as simple as installing single package, reboot, you're on AMDGPU...need other experimental AMDGPU features? That's another package, reboot, done. They make so much stuff easy and just work and doing what FreeBSD is doing is why.

Manjaro asks questions, listens to their community, and that is precisely why they're not irrelevant.

[lucrus]

I just don't see how asking "How do y'all use our OS and what would y'all like to see next?" makes them irrelevant.

Beware it's only my humble opinion, but I think it's the other way around: it's being irrelevant that makes you ask what to do next.

[skeevy420]

If they need to ask the community what to do next, it means they've become irrelevant.

I just don't see how asking "How do y'all use our OS and what would y'all like to see next?" makes them irrelevant. I actually like it when distributions take that approach and seem to care to give a shit about the users of their software and OS.

Like, if X distribution asked their users if they'd like their desktops to focus on gaming, multimedia, media encoding workstation/server, office work, web development, programming, file hosting, etc. Going with gaming might mean a them working on things like finding sane gamemode defaults, using various Steam integration utilities, Lutris by default, wattmanGTK and other AMDGPU tools, Nvidia coolbits and whatnot, multiple Wine builds with dxvk, vkd3d, gallium-nine, etc....but if 100 people chimed back "office work" and 2 people "gaming", why focus on gamemode and wine and gpu tools, oh my? Office Suites, PDF support, font rendering, included fonts, and such might make a bit more sense.

[kingu]

Nope, they were asked. There were forum discussions. They subsequently banned those that dissented (some vociferously) and deleted the posts. Then they implemented their SJW agenda anyway.

However, to nit-pick, the user-base has no reason to fear the COC, per se unless they participate in the forums and mailing lists. It's the developers/porters that do have most to fear. Someone introduces their sexual preferences/handicaps/stress etc into a conversation about code, the entire thing is shut down and discussion is ended.

Don't get me wrong, freeBSD is a great OS and suits my needs (and the business I work for, i might add) but their politics is obnoxious.

Funny that it was discussed and still implemented, news to me.

I have ported software to FreeBSD, wasn't asked. Egregious policy, if for some reason one should grant it only has implications for whoever is making it, still affects the user-base. If your development and product dies, similarly, in similar vein to the argument above, nobody is forcing you to give up on using it, or making a developer of yourself and taking it on alone, if that is what it takes.

[Bsdisbetter]

Why so defensive. Hmmm.

What? I gave you a link, now educate yourself.

[linner]

Regardless, can I say, NO ONE is forcing you to use the OS. You are free to use whatever works for you.

Why so defensive. Hmmm.

[Bsdisbetter]

My main problem with all BSD's is the lack of proper virtualization and container systems. I think crippled VirtualBox and jails are all they have. I want something like KVM, Xen, etc, and lxc.

High-performance video drivers are my next problem but admittedly I haven't looked at the current state.

https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/virtualization.html

Regardless, can I say, NO ONE is forcing you to use the OS. You are free to use whatever works for you.

[Bsdisbetter]

Their user-base was never asked, and "their" CoC was enforced by one person, never asking any of the people that had built it whether they agreed. That is as forceful a philosophy as it gets, seeing as some of it has nothing to do with FreeBSD. Being at the option of using FreeBSD does not change with or without a CoC.

Nope, they were asked. There were forum discussions. They subsequently banned those that dissented (some vociferously) and deleted the posts. Then they implemented their SJW agenda anyway.

However, to nit-pick, the user-base has no reason to fear the COC, per se unless they participate in the forums and mailing lists. It's the developers/porters that do have most to fear. Someone introduces their sexual preferences/handicaps/stress etc into a conversation about code, the entire thing is shut down and discussion is ended.

Don't get me wrong, freeBSD is a great OS and suits my needs (and the business I work for, i might add) but their politics is obnoxious.