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Originally posted by Pawlerson View PostYou've got to be kidding. If something is crap it's definitely Fedora. It has messed up installer and bugs which make it unusable for typical users. For example:
- it doesn't install language pack
- it cannot be upgraded with graphical package manager
- it doesn't reboot after manual upgrade
- it doesn't allow to easily install codecs and proprietary drivers
All of these I've experienced in Fedora KDE spin and gnome version is probably even worse, because it has much different UI and doesn't even provide basic configuration options.
- it doesn't install language pack
hmm http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/...e_Support.html
- it cannot be upgraded with graphical package manager
Really? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PreUpgrade
- it doesn't reboot after manual upgrade
that can be any OS
- it doesn't allow to easily install codecs and proprietary drivers
Same for most any Linux Even Ubuntu thats why i install the Drivers using the Terminal..Last edited by LinuxGamer; 27 July 2013, 11:08 AM.
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Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
Quite frankly I'm surprised that Xubuntu and Mint got so low votes.
I'm surprised Manjaro is getting 14% so far. I didn't think it was that popular; it only has 1,278 Facebook Likes which represents 0.1%. Same for openSUSE: 14% on here, 3.6% on Facebook.
Google Trends is probably a more accurate indicator of interest: ubuntu vs sabayon vs opensuse vs debian vs fedora
and xubuntu vs sabayon vs manjaro vs mint vs fedora
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Well if you think it is hard to install codecs and prop drivers on Fedora, you obviously don't know about:
easyLife allows new and even experienced users to install and configure software on Fedora, just by clicking. It's simple and clean. Among others, these are some of easyLife features:
Sets "sudo" command up for your regular user;
Configures RPMFusion repository for extra and non-free software;
Installs Flash Player plugin;
Installs all kinds of Codecs (h264,divx,xvid,mp3 etc);
Installs nvidia and ati drivers;
Installs Skype;
Installs Sun Java and Sun Java Plugin for Firefox;
Integrates Sun Java with system-switch-java;
And many others...
I bet Debian and openSUSE voters would rather see Fedora if it is just about Fedora vs. Ubuntu. No not everyone will vote for their favorite distro. I like many other Arch users voted for Fedora.Last edited by blackout23; 27 July 2013, 11:16 AM.
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Originally posted by chrisb View PostEvery distribution that updates its repositories with new package versions has the same problem. If you installed Fedora 17 on the day it was released and install it again now you will see many package versions changed which invalidates any benchmarking. It's very hard to manually rollback a system to match what was benchmarked long ago. Debian and Ubuntu actually have a tool to do this, to capture the package system state on one system and restore it exactly on another: apt-clone
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Originally posted by blackout23 View PostI bet Debian and openSUSE voters would rather see Fedora if it is just about Fedora vs. Ubuntu.
The reasons I picked openSUSE over Ubuntu is that OBS supports ARM and automatic vcs retrieval while PPA doesn't and Ubuntu doesn't have anything like SUSE Studio for creating bootable CD, DVD, or USB images.
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Let me think?
Ubuntu Linux: that?s a phone OS and company so it shouldn?t even be on the list.
Sabayon / Gentoo-based: that could be a good one, but they use systemd so I don?t care about it.
Manjaro / Arch-based: same as Sabayon.
Xubuntu: Good one but still kinda Ubuntu unfortunately.
openSUSE: systemd.
Fedora: systemd.
Mint: popular with new and less technical Linux users, but they don?t read Phoronix.
Debian Sid: would be a great choice if they didn?t have extremely outdated packages (took them more than one year to update to Xfce 4.10).
Guess I?ll just vote Xubuntu for now.
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