SDL Developers Weigh Reverting Wayland Over X11 For SDL 3.0

[rabcor]

Ashton is 100% right lol, I don't see what there is to debate.

[brad0]

Allowing a regression, just to be on THE CURRENT THING, isn't logical

That's the Linux way of doing things.

[brad0]

For X it took nearly 20 years to have a semi-modern system. Wayland is more modern from the very beginning.

Modern but very broken. Typical of Linux.

[brad0]

Xorg trolls, do not celebrate yet.... Issues like this are GOOD, because they lead to the implementation of new protocols to solve them.... Eventually Wayland will be a rock solid default for SDL 3.0 . No matter how much you spread FUD and troll against Wayland, Xorg is dead. Deal with it.

Wayland is still broken and unusable. Being an ignorant fanboy won't change that.

[energyman]

Modern but very broken. Typical of Linux.

typical of computing.
Big Iron from the 60s were replaced by cheaper minis that lacked many features.
minis were replaced by commodity servers, that lacked many features
everything was replaced by x86 which lacked many features
...
and today people are jubilant about virtualisation and 'containers' - which is 60 year old tech....

[ReaperX7]

At this point, is Wayland even worth it? They should just ditch this ongoing dumpster fire and put the resources back into X11. Wayland has been out how long and still isn't up to par? How long was X11R6/Xfree86-4.x out before it was stable and feature-rich? Less than 5 years?

[Monsterovich]

Modern but very broken. Typical of Linux.

I can't say how Wayland is modern, I think it's a throwback to the 80s. In the 90s, there were already unified systems with a proper architecture and implementation.

[ReaperX7]

I love how people TRY to say X11 is "dead" and don't understand what release stability means. X11 still gets updates from time to time as patches but mostly pushed out at the distribution level theough Red Hat, Gentoo, Ubuntu, etc. big box Linux distributions.

If a release is stable, it only gets package updates as needed in the mainline release. You can have a github active for years getting patches, but if the mainline is still stable and no new release is actually needed, then a new release doesn't get released until "it's ready". Just because you don't see a new shiny version of X11R6 out for consumption, doesn't mean distributions themselves don't have big box patch sets to fix certain things, add functions, or disable problematic issues. Individual smaller packages of X11R6 do get released from time to time...

Pixman for one got a few updates recently, and the DDX drivers still get releases because many of them are used in servers for basic 2D displays.

Linux isn't JUST a desktop OS. It's primary life is in servers and virtualized systems. Desktop Linux is a small fraction of the use cases for Linux as a whole

[dkasak]

16 years

How old are you?

[kokoko3k]

Modern but very broken. Typical of Linux.

Typical of modern Linux, I'd say.