KDE Will Now Let You Easily Disable Offline Updates, More KWin Crash Fixes

[Jaxad0127]

Discover also handles Flatpaks, Snaps, firmware, and user-installed KDE add-ons (Get Hot New Stuff). And probably more in the future.

[mcloud]

Thanks. This looks as bad an idea as when they had their own web browser.

If KDE didn't made their own web browser back in the day, we wouldn't had KTML .Which means no Blink engine, no Chrome, no Safari and also no Edge (in its last incarnation)

[alcalde]

If KDE didn't made their own web browser back in the day, we wouldn't had KTML .Which means no Blink engine, no Chrome, no Safari and also no Edge (in its last incarnation)

That's what some people tried telling me six years ago too before Konquerer was killed off. But if Konquerer was the progenitor of Chrome, Safari and Edge... what the heck happened? Konquerer ended up slow, broken, and prone to crashing at the slightest hint of Javascript.

[mcloud]

Web got complex and there is even fewer ppl to work on complex stuff like browsers. I don't remember getting crashes, just different rendering or being slower, but maybe it's just the choice of site one uses, never tried like any modern game on it ever

[angrypie]

You tried too hard.

Found the alt-right loser.

[Charlie68]

That's what some people tried telling me six years ago too before Konquerer was killed off. But if Konquerer was the progenitor of Chrome, Safari and Edge... what the heck happened? Konquerer ended up slow, broken, and prone to crashing at the slightest hint of Javascript.

It would be enough to look reality in the face, there is no browser today that can compete with Chromium and its derivatives or Firefox. Why ? Because the browser today has become very complex, it is essential to keep it updated (and the distributions will not update it) have you ever seen an update of Midori, Falkon or Epiphany on Ubuntu? Never ! They are considered minor browsers and are of no interest to anyone. So why should KDE waste time on a browser that two cats will use?

As for the offline update, this is just one way to update, you don't have to use discover to update and even if you want, you can disable them with one click.
However I agree that for the common user it is useful, because after an update the user should at least restart the session, but there are few who do it, otherwise it is possible to have system crashes, as the system is in an inconsistent state . This also results in the reporting of non-existent bugs.

[oiaohm]

It would be enough to look reality in the face, there is no browser today that can compete with Chromium and its derivatives or Firefox.

This is not quite right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_browser_engines

There are 3 major groups of browsers today as a web developer you need to support. The blink engine based ones that are you Chromium and derivatives then you Gecko based ones that your firefox and relatives then you Webkit ones that are your Safari and relations that is all you iOS devices as blink and gecko don't work on iOS that is quite a large user base.

So why should KDE waste time on a browser that two cats will use?

https://apps.kde.org/konqueror/

Konqueror is KDE's Webbrowser and swiss-army-knife for any kind of file-management and file previewing.

Because kde browser is not just a generic web browser. Also if you read more you find it dual engine as in khtml and webkit for html stuff. The webkit form means its in with the iOS browsers. Yes Kouqueror still has a ftp client that firefox and chrome are both losing has support for other internet protocols that firefox and chrome never have supported.

My problem with Konqueror is how do you put a correct security policy around the beast. For number of features shoved in a single program Konqueror is well and truly up there.

[DanL]

Found the alt-right loser.

LMAO. Most people around here consider me an "SJW" because I don't buy into the alt-right garbage. Nice try though.

[tildearrow]

If KDE didn't made their own web browser back in the day, we wouldn't had KTML .Which means no Blink engine, no Chrome, no Safari and also no Edge (in its last incarnation)

Edge would have existed, but stuck in EdgeHTML...

[Charlie68]

This is not quite right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_browser_engines

There are 3 major groups of browsers today as a web developer you need to support. The blink engine based ones that are you Chromium and derivatives then you Gecko based ones that your firefox and relatives then you Webkit ones that are your Safari and relations that is all you iOS devices as blink and gecko don't work on iOS that is quite a large user base.

https://apps.kde.org/konqueror/

Konqueror is KDE's Webbrowser and swiss-army-knife for any kind of file-management and file previewing.

Because kde browser is not just a generic web browser. Also if you read more you find it dual engine as in khtml and webkit for html stuff. The webkit form means its in with the iOS browsers. Yes Kouqueror still has a ftp client that firefox and chrome are both losing has support for other internet protocols that firefox and chrome never have supported.

My problem with Konqueror is how do you put a correct security policy around the beast. For number of features shoved in a single program Konqueror is well and truly up there.

You have to be a masochist to use it as your primary browser. There are perhaps three of you using these browsers, which are not even mentioned among the most used browsers, as they have an irrelevant percentage. Furthermore, the problem remains that these browsers, on most distributions are not updated, not surprisingly in some versions of Ubuntu Falkon is stopped at QupZilla. If you consider this a "safe" way to use the internet ...