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Systemd Gains IP Forwarding, IP Masquerading & Basic Firewall Controls
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Originally posted by r_a_trip View PostIf you have it, why not directly include the link?
It's in this mess of nonsense.
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Originally posted by TheBlackCat View PostNo, sorry, we aren't doing your homework for you. If you are making the claim, it is up to you to provide the evidence for that claim.
You need to put the blame right where it belongs. There are hundreds of threads and thousands of posts. You can take your own time.
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostHell, if you'd like I can even quote LP when he promised someday that systemd would make it impossible for concept of "distributions" to work.
Edit: Reading the link posted now. Edit time will expire by the time I'm done.Last edited by profoundWHALE; 14 January 2015, 11:41 AM.
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Originally posted by TheBlackCat View PostI have read them. Have you? Can you point to something specifically incorrect about my summary?
You can have multiple logging tools running at the same time with systemd just fine. You can even turn of systemd's logging entirely.
The fact that nobody else wants to maintain an alternative doesn't mean no alternatives are possible.
Nothing to do with systemd, this was an upstream kernel decision.
You obviously have no idea what your talking about. cgroups for example work just fine on gentoo. There are several different methods of utilizing them. But on systemd you only get what your given and nothing else.
That must be systemd motto. "Live with what we give you cause that's all you're gonna get"
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Originally posted by duby229 View Post
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostYou obviously have no idea what your talking about. cgroups for example work just fine on gentoo. There are several different methods of utilizing them. But on systemd you only get what your given and nothing else.
Originally posted by duby229 View PostThat must be systemd motto. "Live with what we give you cause that's all you're gonna get"
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Originally posted by TheBlackCat View PostThe upstream kernel maintainer of cgroups removed the ability for there to be multiple cgroups managers: http://lwn.net/Articles/486402/ For someone who complains about others not doing their research, you sure haven't done much of your own. And I notice you ignored the problems with your other supposed examples.
Except for the little problem where you can't actually provide any real example where this has happened.
You obviously still haven't taken the time to educate yourself.
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I'm sure people using Ubuntu Server, Cloud will be disappointed because they axed upstart, now they are forced to move all of his works to systemd, wich IMO is not very professional. Ubuntu 15.04 still does not have systemd... sure you can install it, but they should start to working on testing systemd at least...
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