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Finally, Team Fortress 2 Benchmarks For Phoronix!
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Originally posted by GreatEmerald View PostIf you're trying to quote the article, at least remove the misleading quote ID, or better yet, quote the first post in the thread. Otherwise it looks as if you're misquoting.
Also, the size is an issue. For those who don't have it installed, it would be a hell to download the whole thing just to run a benchmark. When doing a cross-distro test, even more so. It's not even that good of a benchmark, too, as TF2 is already quite outdated.
And no, you only have to download it once and HDD space is stupid cheap. Furthermore you can move the Steam folder to any other distro just fine, even better, just keep your /home directory on it's own partition or another drive, meaning that you can move installs without having to restore your stuff from backups. At most all you need to do is run the "Verify Local Game Cache" test on the game installs.
Originally posted by Calinou View Post100 times better? Isn't Xonotic demanding enough for you? Stop hating games just because they're FOSS.
Compare Xonotic to the HL2:Lost Coast benchmark or any of the recent Valve benchmarks. If you aren't testing several different engines you aren't getting a feel for what the GPU drivers are good at.
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Originally posted by Kivada View PostIt's a poorly optimized and laid out extension of Quake3 being stretched far beyond where it should have dropped in favor of a newer engine. This is the problem with all of the OSS shooter benchmarks.
Compare Xonotic to the HL2:Lost Coast benchmark or any of the recent Valve benchmarks. If you aren't testing several different engines you aren't getting a feel for what the GPU drivers are good at.
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Originally posted by Ramiliez View PostCan back it up with facts or links?
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Originally posted by Kivada View PostRun both with maxed out detail settings with 4xAA & 16xAF. HL2:LC looks much better, has more going on and isn't built on the ancient IdTech engine like every OSS shooter that isn't Cube or Saurbraten. For everything else, look it up your own damn self.
Since you claim to be knowledgeable about the topic i naively assumed that you can back it with something not just with OOH Half-Life Tech Demo haz betterz texturez
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Originally posted by Calinou View Post100 times better? Isn't Xonotic demanding enough for you? Stop hating games just because they're FOSS.
Count how many people play TF2, and count how many people play Xanotic. 100 times was probably conservative.
It's also based off a semi-modern game engine rather than quake 3, so it's likely far more representative of other games people are playing, too.
Unigine tests are hard on the gpu, but they still suck as GPU tests because no real games use that engine. It's only semi-decent because it's one of the only tough tests michael runs that stresses the hardware. Xanotic is somewhere in between - some people are actually using the engine, and it's somewhat stressful, but still mostly sucks on both accounts.Last edited by smitty3268; 18 July 2013, 06:25 PM.
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big, Big, props for the work!
Now we're only missing frame latencies (micro stutter and the like) and PTS would be truly feature complete.
Edit: I was too quick to judge: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTQxNDI
Michael, I salute you. Two articles in one day, I don't know which is better newsLast edited by tomato; 18 July 2013, 06:38 PM.
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Originally posted by Ramiliez View PostEven FUD from elanthis has much better information value than this. Actually his statements contain a lot of salvageable info.
Since you claim to be knowledgeable about the topic i naively assumed that you can back it with something not just with OOH Half-Life Tech Demo haz betterz texturez
Theres a reason nobody outside of Linus and BSD users has ever given a shit about the OSS games even though they are free, they instead flock to freeware or paid games, they are not and have not ever been good and the only people that played them save for the captive community of Linux and BSD users who basically had no other choice.
So again, look it up yourself.
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Originally posted by Kivada View PostYep, you gotta add in the Xorg Edgers PPA if you want to have the current Gallium3D or Catalyst drivers.
TF2 will run on my junked parts box with an 8800TS 320mb and an Athlon64 3500+ Clawhammer, what holds it back is the DDR266 which makes load times stupid long for some reason as I read that this is a known issue.
In the end, people with HD 7xxx cards like myself are stuck until something is done.
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