Originally posted by blackiwid
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yes its the half truth, for apt that is maybe right, but not for aptitude. it gives you different solutions too.
in theory you could also pin packages in apt, to not use the newest packages from oem or so, but I never got that working when I tried it ^^
Ubuntus list of evilness is just to long now.
the worst thing they did was:
1. spyware in default installation/config
then
2. replacing the music store in that music app and steal basicly money from them (yes its legal what they done their but not moralic)
3. dont send patches to upstream
4. inhouse developments that get released last day so the other distros can only integrate it later
5. they used nonfree lisenses on several stuff like their launchpad,
6. and still ubuntu-one server part is proprietary
7. their communications were horrific, letting other people work on stuff and 2 months for release they say, we desided to not use that stuff you exclusivly developed for ubuntu, of that poor qt-guy.
8. they flamed against wayland with lies or at least not the truth
9. they do their MIR thing.
10. even if you think that moralicly thats all ok, but having 20 own solutions that only use ubuntu will become a disaster for them, if no other distributions use that, its less likely that security holes get fixed or found.
11. unity, this move in that timeframe even fragmented the gnome-project even more, and that even with a unready solution, unity was 1-2 years buggier and slower than gnome-shell, they could have switched when they at least would have been at the same level, now they jump around between gtk, qt, compiz and back and forth they cant desite what they want.
12. exclusiv ubuntu amd or nvidia drivers, thats more of their we fight other distro thing, not thinking of a community
13. firefox thing, they could have switched to iceweasal they desided to go the more unfree route here
14. "we require CLA everywhere", ie can turn all into closed source sure people will search for alternative.
its just to much, they seperate themselves. I switch to arch linux and my relatives will switch to fedora, because they deliver maybe what made ubuntu a great distribution - the suckiness even from the beginning, a gnome-distribution.
now they have something qt-gnomeish bastard thing with android drivers. half qt, half gnome half android.
in theory you could also pin packages in apt, to not use the newest packages from oem or so, but I never got that working when I tried it ^^
Ubuntus list of evilness is just to long now.
the worst thing they did was:
1. spyware in default installation/config
then
2. replacing the music store in that music app and steal basicly money from them (yes its legal what they done their but not moralic)
3. dont send patches to upstream
4. inhouse developments that get released last day so the other distros can only integrate it later
5. they used nonfree lisenses on several stuff like their launchpad,
6. and still ubuntu-one server part is proprietary
7. their communications were horrific, letting other people work on stuff and 2 months for release they say, we desided to not use that stuff you exclusivly developed for ubuntu, of that poor qt-guy.
8. they flamed against wayland with lies or at least not the truth
9. they do their MIR thing.
10. even if you think that moralicly thats all ok, but having 20 own solutions that only use ubuntu will become a disaster for them, if no other distributions use that, its less likely that security holes get fixed or found.
11. unity, this move in that timeframe even fragmented the gnome-project even more, and that even with a unready solution, unity was 1-2 years buggier and slower than gnome-shell, they could have switched when they at least would have been at the same level, now they jump around between gtk, qt, compiz and back and forth they cant desite what they want.
12. exclusiv ubuntu amd or nvidia drivers, thats more of their we fight other distro thing, not thinking of a community
13. firefox thing, they could have switched to iceweasal they desided to go the more unfree route here
14. "we require CLA everywhere", ie can turn all into closed source sure people will search for alternative.
its just to much, they seperate themselves. I switch to arch linux and my relatives will switch to fedora, because they deliver maybe what made ubuntu a great distribution - the suckiness even from the beginning, a gnome-distribution.
now they have something qt-gnomeish bastard thing with android drivers. half qt, half gnome half android.
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