Mozilla Firefox 100 Now Available With Various Improvements

[Vistaus]

So this is still not fixed ?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1422637

You're not new here, so you know the drill: “if something isn't fixed, you should fix it yourself”.

[loganj]

just a little more and they will beat chromium to another thing (version number)

[wolfyrion]

No midi support? ?

[RealNC]

That's the task of your window system, not Firefox'. AFAIK Kwin/KDE does that beautifully.

It was never the task of the window system. It's up to the application to do it. All the window system can do is offer options for default placement. Like "center" (which KDE lies about, it't not center.)

It even says so in the kde system settings:

Screenshot_20220503_134149.png

"Allow apps to remember their positions, if they support it." In 2022, Firefox still can't do one of the most basic features of a desktop application Every time I start Firefox, I have to move the window.

[ezst036]

Is the RDD/VA-API hardware acceleration bug still an issue in Firefox 100?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1751363

[curfew]

Considering web browsers don't have much use for horizontal space, it is pretty weird to me they would attempt to save space by removing scroll bars.

Scrollbars are not being hidden, they are changed to be "floating" instead of occupying a fixed amount of space from the viewport.

It has been a constant annoyance for web developers, that when the content initially fits the window, no scrollbars are displayed, but when the content happens to grow larger than the viewport, then scrollbars will appear and the webpage will visibly shift a few pixels to the left, also potentially changing width due to proportional sizing etc.

This problem has completely been created by the "stupid" way of how scrollbars have been implemented in the past. The only proper way to work around horizontal content shift was to force scrollbars on even if they weren't needed, which again isn't aesthetically pleasing. There are also numerous CSS hacks that work with limited proofs-of-concept but break down with real-world websites.

Unfortunately (or not) floating scrollbars are the only way to make it work, and it also kind of dictates that scrollbars be initially hidden until the user "triggers" them with explicitly. Otherwise scrollbars would be partially covering the content and that is a big no no.

This same dilemma of aesthetics vs. hardcore accessibility has plagued desktop apps as well, most notably file browsers.

[curfew]

It's not officially out yet.

Not having the official release information available limits the usefulness of such pieces of news. Michael should have the patience because rushing to report only makes him look incompetent as highlighted by the original comment.

[oibaf]

It can be disabled:

BTW the final release says:

Scrollbars on Linux and Windows 11 won't take space by default. On Linux, users can change this in Settings. On Windows, Firefox follows the system setting (System Settings > Accessibility > Visual Effects > Always show scrollbars).

[M@GOid]

recently in germany ...me waiting in foreigners registration office.

Me waiting
Clerk typing...
*Supervisor passes by*
Clerk "Oh its good to see you boss.. could you show me where to switch on the printer?"
Supervisor "*rolling eyes* Mrs. XYZ ...I have multiple times showed you the button"
.....

True story!

You will find similar stories in any organization. There are, and always will be people that, for the life of them, cannot be technology savvy, no matter their gender, age or level of education. One day I saw a Windows PC with 3 (!!!) antivirus software installed and the user was surprised when I told you are not supposed to do that.

[schmidtbag]

Old Grouch Use autoscroll for content that is too large for the page. Works wonders for those on a mouse and pretty much does exactly what you're looking for except you don't have to hold down anything and it works for all kinds of content. The only problem with autoscroll on Linux is it uses middle-click, so, you basically have to aim anywhere on the page that either won't open a new tab or won't paste text. That's not too hard and is rarely a problem when you need to horizontally scroll, but just something to keep in mind. It's a little amusing to me, because most people I know never use the middle button for anything, and yet, it has several functions.
Somewhat unrelated note: middle-clicking the tab is a faster and easier way to close it. One of the things I like more about Firefox rather than Chrome is that you can remove the close button on each tab, which gives more room for text. I never click the close button anymore.
On a more unrelated note but somewhat related to my first post: I also like Firefox better because it has great options for vertical tabs. Like I said before, horizontal space isn't worth much in web browsers, so it's nice to use up a large chunk of it with tabs. Not only is the concept of vertical tabs more practical, but you can have groups and sub-groups of tabs, and most of the text is always legible regardless of how many tabs you have.

Anyway, for those with trackpads, 2-finger scrolling works fine horizontally so there's no need for an extra feature.