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IBM Announces Deal To Acquire Red Hat At $34 Billion
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Originally posted by brrrrttttt View PostYou think everyone is using it for no reason? Or perhaps you are missing something if you don't see the value everyone else sees.
The biggest problem is the way it's absorbing all of the Linux userspace facilities. This makes it very hard to replace.
It's also quite buggy. We've been burned by systemd bugs a number of times, and that's on an enterprise distro.
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Originally posted by coder View PostI see value in it, but then there's value in Windows and a lot of sub-optimal things that people use.
The biggest problem is the way it's absorbing all of the Linux userspace facilities. This makes it very hard to replace.
It's also quite buggy. We've been burned by systemd bugs a number of times, and that's on an enterprise distro.
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More to read here:
Red Hat seems to try selling the company for a while now. Also within the boat at that time was: Google, Microsoft and IBM.
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Originally posted by Candy View PostMore to read here:
Red Hat seems to try selling the company for a while now. Also within the boat at that time was: Google, Microsoft and IBM.
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I would love for IBM to transform into a bigger Redhat though this acquisition to go up against MS/Oracle/Dell/HPE/other consulting firms. Failing this, Amazon seems good at leaving companies alone after acquisitions, though I don't think IBM will be able to resist at-least a few Java-related changes.
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Originally posted by audir8 View PostI would love for IBM to transform into a bigger Redhat though this acquisition to go up against MS/Oracle/Dell/HPE/other consulting firms. Failing this, Amazon seems good at leaving companies alone after acquisitions, though I don't think IBM will be able to resist at-least a few Java-related changes.
Looking back, and analysing another similar situation..
When Oracle Adquire Sun Microsystems, the American Market accepted the Acquisition, and in Europe it was also approved, BUT with one condition..
The condition was, acquire the Company to make it better, to evolve,and to not let OpenSource project die, like libreoffice mysql..at least this part I know was the deal, in Europe.
Now all of us know very well how it ended... Solaris with Rumours of layoff, Sparc with rumours of being shutdown,
Open Source ecosystems killed, lots of Genius Engineers that turned the Sun Microsystems, the love place it was... the Only company that could compete was IBM, in the number of intelectual Property, and Doctorate personnel...an example( ...that made a TERRIBLE mistake licencing Java on windows for free... ).
Were is that resources now?
Mariadb born from that, with its main creator after years of disinterest by Oracle to leave, OpenOffice splited into LibreOffice + OpenOffice on apache( later ), and a lot could be said about the resources that were developing Solaris, and Sparc..
So Technically, in Europe Someone should sue Oracle for not Abiding to the Agreement.
In the US, I don't know the exact terms..
But the question is...does the State interceded to stop the bloodshed?
NO, no one interceded..
And this example is a very good one, even though that IBM is not Oracle, BUT they are very closed,and a lot focused on Intelectual property Rights( patents...and so on.. ) you only need to look into Aix, only run on power.
They have a Strong Unix philosophy, ofcourse, but that doesn't meant that RedHat will be "for all" in the future..!
And the Resources applied to several archs, on opensource?
Does IBM will mantain that 10 years from now?
For sure will not..
This Acquisition was already expected, at least from me to happen from 2 years ago til now, because after acknowledging, that Linux won the Server Race, and Aix lost, IBM needed to shift, and adapt.
And with the investment made on power 8 and power9, and also on open power, showed clearly that something will hapen.. only a blind man was not able to see it...and even then some would be able to spot it. .
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Originally posted by L_A_G View PostAs much as I'm not a fan of "Big Blue", the whole "IBM made the holocaust possible"-thing is kind of bung... The subsidiary in question was nationalized years before the holocaust began so IBM couldn't have done anything even if they wanted to.
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The only good thing IBM has done in the last ~20 years is their Plex font family. The second last good thing is probably their keyboard but I haven't seen one since early 2000's. Taking into consideration their money comes from supporting ancient legacy stuff like vultures and more recently, Watson and AI stuff you can kinda imagine where Redhat will be after 5-10 years under their hands.
Talking about it, Watson was "supposed" to revolutionize the world, wtf happened IBM?
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