Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
X11 Turns 25 Years Old Today
Collapse
X
-
Some X11 programs actually read directly from the /dev/input/ devices to do global shortcuts anyway. "Mumble" for example.
-
Originally posted by mark45 View PostThanks, but Wayland either has support for it or it doesn't.
Allow me to restate. Wayland does not appear to support X11 hotkeys. We shouldn't refer to X11 hotkeys as "global", since they're not really "global". I guess you could say that they're "global" to X11 applications. I fully expect things like Alt-Tab will still work under Wayland, through the Wayland or WM hotkeys.
"Hotkeys" will work just fine without X11, just like they do under NT, OSX, Linux, and any other X11-less stack.
F
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by curaga View PostI often use actkbd to have "global hotkeys" that work both in X and in the console, without X running.Last edited by mark45; 15 September 2012, 06:16 PM.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by KellyClowers View Post>But remote access ive never ONCE used. I've always gone for a full desktop via an RDP-like protocol. Just seems like a better solution to me because you do get the full desktop available to you.
I haven't yet happened to use a single app remote connection... I have used the whole desktop over X11/NX. Lately I have not had 2 computers running X...
>Also, isnt X11's remote protocol REALLY inefficient for modern applications?
It has its inefficiencies unfortunately, yes. Thus NX. I wouldn't be opposed to X12 or something that kept the good ideas but made things more efficient.
>As far as the "old, polished WMs" Anyone using Ratpoison / blackbox / openbox / etc, will probably stick to X11 for a long time anyway.
Goddamn right.
>Writing an entire compositor? Kwin, Mutter,and Compiz already ARE their own compositor
I really don't care. They can keep their 3d, I don't want it.
>if they are taking the time TO write their own UI, let them do it.
That's a negative. If I wanted that, I would use Chrome and all those windows apps like RealPlayer that do that. But I don't!
>But as far as apps that have hung / crashed / froze: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archive...ay/001002.html
Meh, whatever, if if that works out, it only solves half the problem.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by mark45 View PostSince on Linux global keyboard hotkeys are only done with Xlib (X11), what's Wayland's way of doing this? Is there a way at all?
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by russofris View PostI saw some hotkey stuff last time I took a look at Wayland. In addition, the WM typically has its own set of hotkeys. "Global" keyboard hotkeys were only global when using X11, which is OK since it was the only real game in town. I don't feel that they were truly "global" either, since VT hotkeys worked perfectly fine without X11 present, and continued working with X running.
F
I created an app the other day which captures global hotkeys through Xlib and I'm trying to find a way to make it work under Wayland, and since I can't rely on Xlib.. I wonder.Last edited by mark45; 15 September 2012, 04:12 PM.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by mark45 View PostSince on Linux global keyboard hotkeys are only done with Xlib (X11), what's Wayland's way of doing this? Is there a way at all?
F
Leave a comment:
-
Since on Linux global keyboard hotkeys are only done with Xlib (X11), what's Wayland's way of doing this? Is there a way at all?
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by Ericg View PostIm ignoring the others because they mostly seem like opinion pieces. THIS one however I did want to point out: There's more to being a compositor than just providing 3D. Being a compositor allows applications / toolkits to leverage the GPU for display, leaving the CPU and RAM to do other things. Also it allows for tear-tree video, transparency (yes there are legit cases for transparency, in the windows world-- desktop peek, or the compositor effect to show all windows side by side and let you select the individual one you want instead of alt-tabbing through them one by one). And i'm sure an actual developer (Martin? if he's reading this thread) could point out technical benefits to compositing as well, but unfortunately I am not a developer.
Leave a comment:
Leave a comment: