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Originally posted by TheBlackCat View PostGstreamer never was and never can be the right bet. KDE has an ABI compatibility guarantee. They could not use gstreamer directly because it was going to, and did, break API (not to mention ABI) multiple times during the KDE SC 4 cycle.
and while we're at it, gtk+ 2.x was fully abi-stable for its entire lifespan of nine years.
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Originally posted by TheBlackCat View PostI also you completely ignored the part about dbus. I mentioned a bunch of other examples earlier in the thread but still haven't gotten a response to any of them.
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Originally posted by Awesomeness View PostI always find it funny how Gnome people state how stupid KDE was for not using GStreamer directly and instead should've used GStreamer directly. These are the same people who are defending the Telepathy wrapper over using libpurple directly. As if Pidgin wasn't a nice messenger?
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Originally posted by daniels View Post, and 0.10.x continues to exist and see maintenance releases.
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Originally posted by Thaodan View PostThis means wine gstreamer will be brocken for a long time. Qt4 QGstramer too which means telepathy-call-ui will be useless until a K Frameworks 5 versiom is out.
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Originally posted by Phoronix Email;Dear Ericg,
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Originally posted by daniels View Postare you drunk?
On topic though... Gstreamer did the ABI/API break right, they made sure you could have both (pre-break and post-break) versions installed simultaneously so that no matter what software you had targetting no matter what version of Gstreamer your stuff still worked exactly as it was intended. There's no conspiracy theory. There's no magic genie suddenly making gstreamer0.10 have tons of bugs that it didn't have before (though using an unmaintained piece of software isnt a great idea, granted). Install both, call it a happy day, and if you have a piece of software that REQUIRES 0.10 then got on the developers ass to port it to 1.x, its that simple.All opinions are my own not those of my employer if you know who they are.
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Originally posted by daniels View Postreally? it's not like 0.10.x suddenly gained a load of bugs or is suddenly unusable.
Bugs like these are nowadays only getting fixed in GStreamer 1.x (hopefully they get fixed at all).
Not only does Phonon ensure KDE's ABI stability promise, it also means that people like me can simply avoid such bugs by just using the VLC back-end.
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