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Originally posted by nomadewolf View PostAt least with Mint, their choices are ALWAYS made with the users in mind.
So if the user base doesn't want MIR, it won't be shoved down their throats.
Also, Mint has a 100% Debian based version, just in case...
Originally posted by daniels View Postweston doesn't have anything to do with buffer allocation. you can still do server-side buffer allocation on wayland (which i'm very comfortable saying as i've done it) with no changes to the compositor - it's all in the EGL stack for your graphics card, which have their own private buffer allocation protocols, e.g. wl_drm.
Originally posted by Tgui View PostLets not forget we should be storming down Intels doors for not using the Gallium framework to implement their graphics drivers!! How dare they not support an established effort to improve the linux graphics stack. For shame!!! How dare they not work towards the greater good of the Linux work and produce code that benefits only them more in the short term. I simply can't believe they deprived us of a world with a more robust Gallium code base!!!
Some people here need to get a grip and some perspective.
Since X is supposed to be eventually abandoned for the desktop, a future with X and Wayland would have mean this problem would be temporary, and that you could just write for Wayland without much trouble. The same would have been if Mir were there before Wayland, a Mir versus X would have mean only temporary problems and nothing that serious.
Originally posted by synaptix View PostAs well as Xubuntu and Lubuntu in the future.
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"Wayland is repeating the mistakes of X"
Finally, yes, I think Wayland is repeating the mistakes of X, and I would like to have a fast, lean, clean option that does not.
Mark
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Originally posted by MartinN View Posthttp://www.markshuttleworth.com/arch...comment-402807
Has anyone seen this comment from Mark? What is he talking about here - any responses from Wayland devs? Is there some facts so far in the Wayland development that support Mark's thesis or is this just a hunch/assessment from Mark?
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Originally posted by MartinN View Posthttp://www.markshuttleworth.com/arch...comment-402807
Has anyone seen this comment from Mark? What is he talking about here - any responses from Wayland devs? Is there some facts so far in the Wayland development that support Mark's thesis or is this just a hunch/assessment from Mark?
It's not honest, it's marketing.
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Originally posted by MartinN View Posthttp://www.markshuttleworth.com/arch...comment-402807
Has anyone seen this comment from Mark? What is he talking about here - any responses from Wayland devs? Is there some facts so far in the Wayland development that support Mark's thesis or is this just a hunch/assessment from Mark?
The x11 developers are well aware of x11 faults. They even created x12, at least in the paper. But in order to make complete distinction between x11 and it's sucessor, they called it Wayland.
Yes, the developers of x11, are essentially the same that develop Wayland!
They are well aware of x11's faults, and Wayland's aproach is completely different and thought off in a way as to avoid the mistakes of x11.
So, if Mark indeed made such a statement he is one of the following:- Misinformed
- Dumb
- Liar
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Originally posted by MartinN View Posthttp://www.markshuttleworth.com/arch...comment-402807
Has anyone seen this comment from Mark? What is he talking about here - any responses from Wayland devs? Is there some facts so far in the Wayland development that support Mark's thesis or is this just a hunch/assessment from Mark?
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Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Postwell next time Dont go around calling ppl fuckin lier's when you dont know what the fuck you're talking about i do code some just not like a use to
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Originally posted by BO$$Even if Ubuntu becomes the Linux leader, why the hell would you choose Linux over the already installed and working Windows?
As for all the bs you said, you should check how different is Mir from what Wayland proposes. For a start it uses quite a few Wayland's solutions.
And XMir sure repeats X errors, and you praise it anyway.
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