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Originally posted by synaptix View PostThis is true since Unity came around, but what was meant is if Ubuntu had a total and complete failure to the point of both Ubuntu and Canonical being defunct status. Some would probably go pure Debian while I would guess a lot would go join LM and use their LMDE edition.
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Originally posted by LinuxGamer View PostIf Debian get off it's ass and release some up to date package's on release day ill use it but atm Debian 7.1 is so far out of date it's not funny what do you get out of it 2 or 3 year old package's, the LTS Kernal is the only part not out of date, i'm using Linux Mint here, but i want to see Debian stop being so far out of date it's not funny, maybe if it did like openSUSE on it's EOL's and Releases i use it, openSUSE has what kernal 3.7 and updated package's, and you get support for around 15mo's, i can remember
Xubuntu user here and I agree, that is one thing I don't like about Debian. I'm kind of person that likes having the very latest (currently running Xubuntu 13.10 dev release). Also find things easier to do through Ubuntu than directly through Debian, as I have tried LMDE in the past and it confused the hell out of me for some reason. xD
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Originally posted by synaptix View PostXubuntu user here and I agree, that is one thing I don't like about Debian. I'm kind of person that likes having the very latest (currently running Xubuntu 13.10 dev release). Also find things easier to do through Ubuntu than directly through Debian, as I have tried LMDE in the past and it confused the hell out of me for some reason. xD
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Originally posted by BO$$ View PostWhat you haters don't understand is that for most people Ubuntu == Linux.
Ubuntu has become too big to fail. If it fails it takes everybody down with it.
So you should actually learn to support Mir and all the devs focus on it especially since it moves so fast and leave Wayland for later.
Linux on the desktop is where it is due to Ubuntu.
Everybody should actually help them since most Linux users are Ubuntu users.
If Ubuntu dies everybody moves back to Windows and Linux will go back to basement dwellers, their dogs and Richard Stallman the loser weirdo who said that Ubuntu is bad and the community should teach them a lesson. It is the opposite in fact, Richard Stallman and his loser friends need to shut up and go to their corner. They've had their time. All they got was a shitty 1% of the market. Now fuck those jokers and let's try something else!
Do you understand that by sabotaging Canonical you are actually sabotaging yourselves? Even you Gentoo users! Linux benefits from having many users.
Do you want it to wither all away, all that was gained so hard and for so much toil? Your rebellion against Canonical will come back to bite your asses. In fact it will chew you whole. So the only option for now is to support Canonical, even if you don't agree with all their decisions. Their success will trickle down to lesser used distros.
Canonical is basically like the American banks in 2008.
I only can ask you again, although you won't even consider to do it: Back up your claims or GTFO.
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Originally posted by LinuxGamer View PostIf Debian get off it's ass and release some up to date package's on release day ill use it but atm Debian 7.1 is so far out of date it's not funny what do you get out of it 2 or 3 year old package's, the LTS Kernal is the only part not out of date, i'm using Linux Mint here, but i want to see Debian stop being so far out of date it's not funny, maybe if it did like openSUSE on it's EOL's and Releases i use it, openSUSE has what kernal 3.7 and updated package's, and you get support for around 15mo's, i can remember
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Originally posted by synaptix View PostBut Ubuntu != Linux, Linux = Linux. Ubuntu = GNU/Linux. Also if Ubuntu fails, Linux Mint would defintely pick up a lot of the slack, since they have an edition based directly off Debian cutting out Ubuntu from the mix.
And a lot of Ubuntu users will not try another distro even if it came with cookies.
Originally posted by BO$$ View PostWhat you haters don't understand is that for most people Ubuntu == Linux. Ubuntu has become too big to fail. If it fails it takes everybody down with it. So you should actually learn to support Mir and all the devs focus on it especially since it moves so fast and leave Wayland for later. Linux on the desktop is where it is due to Ubuntu. Everybody should actually help them since most Linux users are Ubuntu users. If Ubuntu dies everybody moves back to Windows and Linux will go back to basement dwellers, their dogs and Richard Stallman the loser weirdo who said that Ubuntu is bad and the community should teach them a lesson. It is the opposite in fact, Richard Stallman and his loser friends need to shut up and go to their corner. They've had their time. All they got was a shitty 1% of the market. Now fuck those jokers and let's try something else!
Do you understand that by sabotaging Canonical you are actually sabotaging yourselves? Even you Gentoo users! Linux benefits from having many users. Do you want it to wither all away, all that was gained so hard and for so much toil? Your rebellion against Canonical will come back to bite your asses. In fact it will chew you whole. So the only option for now is to support Canonical, even if you don't agree with all their decisions. Their success will trickle down to lesser used distros. Canonical winning will actually help improve the whole Linux community. Canonical is basically like the American banks in 2008. You bail them out or else....
Originally posted by synaptix View PostXubuntu user here and I agree, that is one thing I don't like about Debian. I'm kind of person that likes having the very latest (currently running Xubuntu 13.10 dev release). Also find things easier to do through Ubuntu than directly through Debian, as I have tried LMDE in the past and it confused the hell out of me for some reason. xD
Everytime I needed/wanted to do something remotely advanced I had to check Debian's wiki.
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Originally posted by BO$$ View PostMay I suggest Windows? No need to upgrade every 6 fucking months... and have to relearn stuff because the designer thought they were smart...
Debian doesn't update every six months, but Ubuntu does.
Debian doesn't change things often, but Ubuntu does, as we are discussing one of those changes here.
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